Extra remotes on a TC24D

[SacandagaBrad]

So not to further hijack Bob's original post on rear remotes, I'm starting this one for some more clarification on a question I posted there.

My original question and the response are:

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( ( Is there a splitter or some other way that I could use a hydraulic top link and still be able to run the chute on the snowblower?)

You need a hydraulic multiplier. V & M has just what you want. Or you could use an electronic diverter. )</font>

Now I'm more confused than ever /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Closed centers, open centers, works on any tractor. Would such an addition run off my existing rear remote (factory option) or be a separate, stand-alone remote coming off the main hydraulics of the tractor. The existing one has a valve for up-down, back-forward, etc. If the multiplier runs off the existing remote, it doesn't seem possible that it could work until the valve was activated to cause some hydraulic fluid flow, which would then need to be manipulated through the multiplier to control a second unit such as a hydraulic top link. Am I making any sense? I'm hoping something like that offered by V&M would provide an aftermarket solution for a second stand-alone remote so I could run both a top link and the chute rotator at the same time.

Thanks - Brad

 

[Bob_Skurka]

Brad, I'm no expert so if I get this wrong I'm sure the real experts will correct me, but I've obviously been digging around.

I really just need a single remote for a hydraulic top link. But the price of the CCI Top & Tilt has me seriously thinking that I'll end up buying his unit when it is available. The T&T unit is essentially a multiplier unit that has a joystick attached to it.

SO, if I understand it correctly, and I think I do. . . you could take a T&T system, and when you don't need the side tilt function, you could disconnect the side tilt, and use the side tilt hose to control the chute on a snowblower. Or at least that is what I have been told could be done. Now I presume if you disconnect the side tilt cylinder, you'd probably have to take it out and put the regular linkage in place or the right side of the implement would probably just sag?

 

[rambler]

Brad, had to go to the other thread to look up the web site for those remotes, the link part didn't transfer with the cut & paste.

They are an add-on to an exsisting remote hydraulic. They use electric from your battery, & there will be a push button to control which of the 2 new ports are currently active.

It works real well. You need to remember which set of ports you want to use, whether to hold the electric button or not. And, you can _not_ use both sets of ports at the same time. This is not usually a problem, but it is either one or the other.

There are different setups for the 'electric button' depending on what you want. It could be a switch, you flip one way or the other. Or it can be a button, the ports always work on one side, unless you hold the button, then it works the other set of ports only while you are holding the button.

It's pretty much plug it in & go, fairly simple system. Going to spend more time doing the wiring & locating the botton. About like adding a multiple outlet strip to your current wall plug - but you can't use them all at the same time, need to select which plug-in is active. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

--->Paul

 

[MadReferee]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I really just need a single remote for a hydraulic top link. But the price of the CCI Top & Tilt has me seriously thinking that I'll end up buying his unit when it is available. The T&T unit is essentially a multiplier unit that has a joystick attached to it. )</font>

I don't think so. The joystick valve from CCM is a 2 spool open center valve similar to the one for your loader. The TCC setup is the same.

If you want to use your existing remote (when you get it) to work both the top link and tilt link cylinders you will need a multiplier or diverter that has a push button that swaps the single lever function (your remote) from one cylinder to the other. That is as simple as I can explain it without going into technical detail.

 

[SacandagaBrad]

Thanks for the replies, but I'm still a bit confused. If the multiplier plugs into my exisiting rear remote, is the valve on the existing remote also electronically controlled? The existing valve is a simple bi-directional spring loaded lever that returns to center or "neutral" when released, stopping any flow through the remote. Pushed forward flows one way, pulled back flows the other. It seems that would have to be bypassed somehow to keep it "live" so there is constant pressure or supply available to the multiplier unit for use on demand. Thinking it through as I'm typing, I guess the existing valve control would have to be electronically controlled for bi-directional flow?

Brad

 

[tc33brad]

I have one rear factory remote and a hydraulic top link so I know how that works. Wouldn't it just be easier and simpler to have two factory remotes and not have any extra wiring, buttons or joy sticks to contend with ?? On my 33 rear fender I have one more slot available so not understanding all the logistics of these other controls it seems like a good place for another remote handle and it's an easy location to use.

 

[MadReferee]

SacandagaBrad,

For 1 into 2 multiplier or diverter there would be a button on the remote lever that switched the fluid flow between work port outputs. Thus when you move the remote lever without pressing the button one set of work port outputs are activated. When you press the button the other set of work port outputs are activated.

This is what V&M sells as their Add-A-Valve setup. The Add-A-Valve plugs into an existing remote's work ports giving you 2 sets of works ports controlled by a button on the remote lever. See their website for more details.

 

[MadReferee]

tc33brad,

I believe that the TC24 can only accept one factory remote. Thus the need for a multiplier or diverter.

 

[SacandagaBrad]

Got it!

As far as extra factory remotes - the TC24 is only set up for the one unit.

Thanks for the clarification.

Brad

 

[tc33brad]

Now I understand.