F350 V 10

[john_bud]

There was a study on thedieselplace.com about the effectiveness of air filters. Flow and particle entrapment. Surprise! The factory AC Delco filter trapped the most particles and flowed as much as any of them. The K&N did flow more, but didn't actually stop much in the way of airborne particulates. Results are from my memory, if you want the straight facts, you'll have to search them out.

Engine wear out is DRAMATICALLY impacted by the amount of airborne particulates that get past the filter.

That's why the AC filter is still in place!

jb

 

[patrick_g]

JB, I didn't mention that I abandoned the K&N instead of washing and oiling A N D not put it on any other vehicles as any sort of advantage in having a little more airflow-power is not worth as much as longer engine life to me. I gt all the extra HP and Torque I need from the injector pump and injector mods along with the free flowing exhaust.

Some folks who don't keep there vehicles as long as I do may not mind. A smart buyer might discount the condition of a vehicle if it had the K&N decal on it.

Pat

 

[ddivinia]

If you're getting that kind of mileage then you've got a sick truck. The emissions equipment has definately hurt mileage but not that bad. My '08 F-450 has only 1600 miles but so far it's gotten a high of 15 highway and 12 city driving. That's with a 4.30 axle ratio and a 8900# truck. You do have to keep your speed down, these trucks are as aerodynamic as a brick. The mileage on all the new diesels have been hurt by the emission equipment.

The V-10 is supposed to be a bulletproof engine. I've never heard of anyone having a major problem with one. They make a lot of sense in an F-250/350 SRW pickup.

I know of a handful of people getting really bad mileage and Ford isn't doing anything about it.

D.

 

[ddivinia]

Quadzilla air box and filter on my 2005 Dodge Ram 3500 gave 20 RWHP on the dyno. I would not have believed it if i had not seen it. The only thing changed was the air box and filter. The stock filter was pretty much new and clean. Yeah, I kept the Quadzilla after I saw the numbers.

D.

 

[JESSE1]

I know of a handful of people getting really bad mileage and Ford isn't doing anything about it.

D.

Ford isn't the only one getting bad mileage. The new emissions systems required on all the new diesels is the main culprit. It takes quite a bit of extra fuel for the system to burn out the DPF. Also, 350-365 hp engines are going to burn more fuel for that extra power. I'd like to be able to get 20 mpg with my F-450 but it's not going to happen. Compared to my first diesel pickup, an '82 GMC with a 6.2 (130hp), I'll take the '08 6.4 with 350 hp and lower mileage.

 

[KICK]

a good friend of mine who is a ASE certified master tech had a v8 firebird that wouldn't pass emmisions. he did all kinds of testing trying to figure out why the long term fuel trim wasn't where it was supposed to be, went in circles wit the car for awhile..

then he took the KN filter out and put in a plain old paper filter. couldn't believe it, that hi buck air filter was causing the car not to pass emissions.

end result was KN in the garbage.

I've put em on my bikes, about the only difference I noticed was more intake noise....

most stuff people do to computer controlled vehicles is a waste of money.

all you gotta do is ask yourself who knows more about that vehicle, say someone like Hot Truck Magazine who depends on advertising revenue from parts vendors like KN or banks to make a profit, or the people who designed and built that vehicle?

 

[Stimw]

Back to the V-10s , google V-10 Ford spark plugs and you will find problems with them blowing plugs out of the heads. I have seen complaints on engines as back far as 1999. Ford claims it's because non mechanics aren't torqueing them properly. I've NEVER used a torque wrench on a spark plug!
There are even after market thread kits to repair the spark plug holes because it seems Helicoils won't work on these heads. All you have to do is remove the heads, drill out the holes, rethread them and install the coils.
As to the Pinto, 60 minutes had the Ford memo, Estimated cost to pay off burn victums- $29 million, cost to make car safer- $5. each or $ 49 million.

 

[mjncad]

As to the Pinto, 60 minutes had the Ford memo, Estimated cost to pay off burn victums- $29 million, cost to make car safer- $5. each or $ 49 million.

I remember the 60 Minutes article when I used to watch the show, and I don't recall the total dollar amounts in millions. However, the pay off costs to burn victims still does not take into account the harder to quantify amount of bad press and lost sales from bad press.

 

[unreconstructed]

Since I started this thread, I have driven a little over 1,800 miles in my new
F350 V-10 with stick. Mileage is pretty well within the 13.-5 to 14.5 range combined town-highway driviing (not towing). Not much less than my old F250 5.4 with stick, 3.73 gears. May be able to take the 5203 to the place over New Years. Will see then if towing mileage has gone up any. Really don't care to tell the truth. Had rather buy gas than push that #$%^ wheel barrow again.

 

[patrick_g]

I've NEVER used a torque wrench on a spark plug!

And likely neither has the guys who blew the plugs out of their heads after their DIY plug changes.

There are torque specs for proper seating of plugs, with and without the crushable copper gaskets or whatever. Given the posted info re problems with plugs blowing out, I think I would start using a torque wrench to tighten the plugs in that V-10. Especially sine the fix is way more hassle than a simple helicoil job.

Pat