Farm dogs and new neighbors. Ugh!

[shaeff]

That $1200 would go a long way in fencing. Sucks that the money is going to the vet rather than the fence that could help prevent that all from happening.

Short and sweet:

If on your property, you shouldn't have to pay.

If on neighbors' property, your fault regardless of what dog "started it", you'd be lucky for them to split the bill.

If on neither of your properties, I don't think you should owe half, but should probably contribute some.

 

[ovrszd]

Good luck with a solution. It's probably not going to be pretty and will definitely be habit changing.

 

[Dftodd]

Neighbors have 4 yappy dogs that think they are 10 ft tall and bullet proof. We have a 2 1/2yo female German shepherd. She gets along with bigger dogs fine. But the big dogs don't torment her or go after her. The yappers across the street bow up to her and try to bite her.

We have 1 1/2 acres fenced in out back where we keep our shepherd. Neighbor let's his dogs run loose. They don't listen to him, and run all over the neighborhood.

My shepherd and I go for a walk at night before bed time. She's contained and on a leash. We've had the Neigbor let his dogs out while we are walking and have had them come after us. My shepherd's almost got them a couple times. But I always stop her if I see them coming, hold her collar and keep her head up. Then concentrate on keeping the little biters away from her. Usually scare the daylights out of our other neighbors with me yelling at the neighbors dogs

Owner of the dogs has told me a couple times to just let my shepherd get a hold of them, maybe his dogs would learn. It's like I told him though, I don't want it to be a final lesson.

I will say this, if the attack happened on your property, it's on them. If it happens on there property, it's your responsibility. If it's on property not owned by either party, or in the street, then responsibility is determined by the circumstances.

Splitting the bill is very reasonable since neither set of dogs were contained, and on someone else's property. Now if her dogs were on leash, the bill would be on you for all of it. If your dogs were on leash and her dog attacked and got the snot kicked out of it, then that is on the neighbors.

 

[ovrszd]

Neighbors have 4 yappy dogs that think they are 10 ft tall and bullet proof. We have a 2 1/2yo female German shepherd. She gets along with bigger dogs fine. But the big dogs don't torment her or go after her. The yappers across the street bow up to her and try to bite her.

We have 1 1/2 acres fenced in out back where we keep our shepherd. Neighbor let's his dogs run loose. They don't listen to him, and run all over the neighborhood.

My shepherd and I go for a walk at night before bed time. She's contained and on a leash. We've had the Neigbor let his dogs out while we are walking and have had them come after us. My shepherd's almost got them a couple times. But I always stop her if I see them coming, hold her collar and keep her head up. Then concentrate on keeping the little biters away from her. Usually scare the daylights out of our other neighbors with me yelling at the neighbors dogs

Owner of the dogs has told me a couple times to just let my shepherd get a hold of them, maybe his dogs would learn. It's like I told him though, I don't want it to be a final lesson.

I will say this, if the attack happened on your property, it's on them. If it happens on there property, it's your responsibility. If it's on property not owned by either party, or in the street, then responsibility is determined by the circumstances.

Splitting the bill is very reasonable since neither set of dogs were contained, and on someone else's property. Now if her dogs were on leash, the bill would be on you for all of it. If your dogs were on leash and her dog attacked and got the snot kicked out of it, then that is on the neighbors.

Maybe a can of pepper spray?? It would only take once.

 

[Dftodd]

Maybe a can of pepper spray?? It would only take once.

Neighbor knows what time I go for a walk. You could set your clock by It. He will forget, then let his dogs out. Then his wife hears both of us yelling at his dogs. She will come out and start yelling at him

This sets off the rumor mill through the neighborhood Usually both of us have to go visit the elderly neighbors on the street the next day so they know that we weren't fighting

Thought about taking my wife's tazer with me, but it's military grade. Would probably send the little biter into a seizure

 

[Dftodd]

I need some opinions... Sorry for the novel.

The majority of her property isn't fenced either. Neither one of us have gates for our driveways. I知 going to put a couple of hot wires low on the fence to hopefully deter my dogs from going through it, but it's not going to lock them up! My dogs have a purpose.. they keep the coyotes away from our animals and alert us if a horse is out, or causing trouble. Hers are strictly pets. Are there any other low cost solutions I could suggest to her? The tension between our dogs is growing and the electric wire is not a totally full proof solution either.



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Your neighbor is gonna have to keep her dogs contained on her property. As well as your dogs being contained on your property. If not, your gonna continue to have issues.

We have to keep our old Jack Russel separated from our shepherd. With training, we got her to leave him alone in the house while we are present. But the yard is different. She will go after him if she's off leash in an instant. And you have to choke her out to get her to release him.

Unless your neighbors dog could hurt your shepherd enough to to be the dominate, then the issue is gonna continue.

Neighbor and I had a dispute with his older shepherd coming onto my property and being aggressive towards my small dogs before we got our shepherd. It didn't end well for the neighbors dog, or one of my dogs. And my neighbor learned a valuable lesson about owner responsibility. Especially when He knew there was an issue but decided to not do something about it.

 

[ovrszd]

Neighbor knows what time I go for a walk. You could set your clock by It. He will forget, then let his dogs out. Then his wife hears both of us yelling at his dogs. She will come out and start yelling at him

This sets off the rumor mill through the neighborhood Usually both of us have to go visit the elderly neighbors on the street the next day so they know that we weren't fighting

Thought about taking my wife's tazer with me, but it's military grade. Would probably send the little biter into a seizure

Yeah, what a dilemma. I would go "stealth". I'd be armed with pepper spray and not utter a sound. Simply spray. Deny everything. I would do all of this to restore my Dog's self esteem and dignity.

 

[cqaigy2]

I can see the days of free ranging dog being limited even in very rural country places.

And therein lies the dilemma. Just what is "very rural"? Some people think we live in a very rural area, but i grew up in a very rural area, so to me this is more of a small community and you shouldn't just let your animals run free in this "very rural". Especially when we had livestock, i took a dim view of somebodies pets running my stock.

 

[Thall303]

Many people claim “their” dogs never do anything wrong.......and forget they are animals!

 

[goeduck]

My opinion is that if it happened on your property you are not responsible. If it happened anywhere else you are 100% reposnsible. If it happened on someone else’s property you need to pay 100% in hopes that person doesn’t get a bill. If some large or aggressive dog came onto my property and atttacked a smaller dog that happened onto my property you are danged right that I am going to want the attacking dog’s owner to make it right.

 

[newbury]

And therein lies the dilemma. Just what is "very rural"? Some people think we live in a very rural area, but i grew up in a very rural area, so to me this is more of a small community and you shouldn't just let your animals run free in this "very rural". Especially when we had livestock, i took a dim view of somebodies pets running my stock.

To me "very rural" is where your actions won't affect your neighbor.

 

[Coyote machine]

You're out of luck now. Your dog injured another dog off your premises. The injured dog's vet bill is essentially on you, or you could face a suit and still have to pay the vet bill as well.
Regardless, you must immediately take action to make sure YOUR dogs don't tangle with your neighbor's dogs, for any reason. The problem will not go away, you have to contain your dogs, by whatever means necessary or things will most likely get worse for you. Do what you must, shock collar with remote, Invisible Fence, build a wall, whatever keeps yours from accessing theirs. If there's get to your place, game over; unless it crawls home and bleeds out with no witnesses.
Pay them, fix your dog(s) threat to any dog off your premises, hope that keeps the sheriff, and possible lawsuit off your doorstep.

 

[Sigarms]

I can see the days of free ranging dog being limited even in very rural country places.

As well those days should be over.

90% of dogs that roam aren't spayed or neutered, or have up to date rabbies vaccinations. For some reason people have no clue what the protocol is when your pet tangles with a possible rabid animal.

Our county (total population 30,000) puts down well over 3,000 unwanted dogs and cats each year. I have no doubt part of this issue is caused by people letting their animals wonder wherever they please.

 

[DieselnHooters]

OP between you and the neighbor thats a whole lot of dogs...am just glad I dont live nearby

 

[GregbkH]

I have a neutered male black mouth cur and live in the sticks with one neighbor. My dog does not go off my property even when her dogs are out. His name is MF Jones and he excels at keeping things that don't belong off of our property. She (neighbor) had to put in an under ground fence to keep her dogs on her property because they would come over and one, a male coon hound, would end up fighting with my dog. Nothing serious ever happened as they are all fairly large dogs, 80+ pounds. My dog was the better fighter and never got injured but I didn't want any of them to get injured. Once her fence was up things were good again.

That said, I have had to pay two different vet bills for two small dogs that were injured by my dog. One on my property and one at a park where both dogs were off leash. In both cases the two smaller dogs started the trouble and my dog finished it. I felt it was my obligation, especially the one at the park, to pay for the vet bills which cost me nearly $1000.

Incidentally, both the smaller dogs were Jack Russel terriers and both male. I don't get what makes them think that they are a match for another dog that is six times their size? They should be called Kamikazee terriers.

 

[Dftodd]

I have a neutered male black mouth cur and live in the sticks with one neighbor. My dog does not go off my property even when her dogs are out. His name is MF Jones and he excels at keeping things that don't belong off of our property. She (neighbor) had to put in an under ground fence to keep her dogs on her property because they would come over and one, a male coon hound, would end up fighting with my dog. Nothing serious ever happened as they are all fairly large dogs, 80+ pounds. My dog was the better fighter and never got injured but I didn't want any of them to get injured. Once her fence was up things were good again.

That said, I have had to pay two different vet bills for two small dogs that were injured by my dog. One on my property and one at a park where both dogs were off leash. In both cases the two smaller dogs started the trouble and my dog finished it. I felt it was my obligation, especially the one at the park, to pay for the vet bills which cost me nearly $1000.

Incidentally, both the smaller dogs were Jack Russel terriers and both male. I don't get what makes them think that they are a match for another dog that is six times their size? They should be called Kamikazee terriers.

Jack Russel's are pretty good protectors. Out of all our dogs over the years, he's the one who was protective of my wife, daughter, and grand kids, and had to watch if you were a stranger. Our other dogs including our German Shepherd would lick a person to death Jack Russel's can be territorial and will protect what they perceive is there territory, just like any other dog.

Our trainer we used for our shepherd brought up a good point. Dogs don't recognize size. Its just another dog. That's why you will sometimes see a Chihuahua running off a Great Dane

 

[TractorGuy]

My opinion is that if it happened on your property you are not responsible. If it happened anywhere else you are 100% reposnsible. If it happened on someone else痴 property you need to pay 100% in hopes that person doesn稚 get a bill. If some large or aggressive dog came onto my property and atttacked a smaller dog that happened onto my property you are danged right that I am going to want the attacking dog痴 owner to make it right.

I agree with this.

I love my animals but I no longer own any dogs. When I did there were no neighbors for miles and I still kept them in a kennel unless I was in calling range.

Our area has become more developed and I refuse to tolerate loose dogs. The most recent was a renter nearby had two dogs she was leaving loose to wonder. Last time i saw them her bulldog and lab were jogging down the road back to her house. The bulldog was carrying one of the neighborhood cats it had killed. I took a photo and promptly called animal control and gave them her address. She got the message and fenced them in.

If you allow your animals to leave your property YOU are responsible for their actions OR injuries.

 

[D2Cat]

You and the neighbor have 9 dogs, and you want to have peace? Chances are slim and none.

If I were in your situation, I would have the neighbor come over and have a discussion on resolving the bill and then how to prevent future confrontations. I'd ask at the very beginning, "How do you want to handle this? What's fair?" Maybe have to get the dogs together for a time of introduction with the humans (pack leaders) there. Do some brainstorming and come up with a solution that both parties agree to work on.

Do you have permission to ride on the property across from you, where the attach occurred? If not, you need to show respect for them because they could end up in a suit if this escalates further.

 

[tcreeley]

We used to see our neighbor's dogs from across the highway over here. They killed a chicken or two. We tracked the feathers. Then they stopped showing up. Discovered later that the bigger one went after our arab mare and got kicked in the head. Broke its jaw. - Lesson well learned.

 

[YanmarFever]

Fences make for good neighbors and dogs.