Farm Pro tractors from Homier Sales

   / Farm Pro tractors from Homier Sales #11  
Re: Farm Pro tractors from Homier Sales UPDATE

Went by Homier on the way to lunch today and they now have tractors on display. I've been wanting to see and feel one of the chinese tractors for quite some time so I stopped in for a look.

I told the sales guy that I knew they were Jinmas and were made in China, asked him straight out "What can you tell me about them.?" He actually did know about the product he was selling.

He walked me through all of the controls, started and ran it, told me that they weren't FNH or JD. He told me that Homier's number one warrenty item to date were pinched o-rings and that the operator of this particular show included a set of meteric o-rings with the tractor. He said that anyone who can provide proof that they are certified as a diesel machanic can be paid for warrenty work at a labor rate of $46/hr. He said that to date Homier has sold between 450 and 500 tractors nation wide.

Some observations:
* the metal fenders are thin, I wonder how they will hold up to the elements over the long haul (my father-in-laws 1948 8n has held up well and was never sheltered)

* the steering cylinder is in front of the axle, I think I remember a lot of discussion on the CTOA about the draw backs of this setup

* the castings are not first rate but not nearly as bad as Jinma-bashers would lead you to believe

* the wiring needs some help, all of the individual wires were exposed instead of run through chases or bundled together, many were stretched to make it to their destination. The lighting "harness" under the fenders just hung loose and probably wouldn't survive the first outing in my timber.

*the loader is crude, probably of the same quality that many associate with the tractor.

The JM254 was $5999, $8300 with the FEL and in my opinion is over priced considering that a Koyker 160 can be had for a similar price.

Overall I was impressed. While not a top shelf brand it isn't the "uninformed sucker" brand that so many "experts" claim it is either, it's diffinately a work horse and not a show horse.

Oh yeah, one last thing. The only time the sales guy broke eye contact was when he stated "The reason Homier can sell these for so cheap is because we import them as parts, not tractors and don't pay tarriffs". I think he knew that he had gone too far (he is a salesman and just could help himself!)
 
   / Farm Pro tractors from Homier Sales #12  
I saw some homier marked tractors for sale by a dealer at a flea market this weekend. The listed a 20hp, swd, ag tires, plus free mower for 3499.... though no info on what the 'free mower' was. I did see some 5' rotary mowers near there...
In actuality.. that woudn't be too bad a deal.. though I don't know who is making the mowers. The cheapest domestic brands I've seen are howse and KK, KK being in the 5-6 hundred range and light duty.

I wonder if there is a light duty 5' cutter for these 20hp jinmas out there.. perhaps lighter too.
Anyone have ideas or info on this? If I could find a 5' mower cheaper and lighter than a KK.. my 8n would love it...

Soundguy
 
   / Farm Pro tractors from Homier Sales #13  
Re: Farm Pro tractors from Homier Sales UPDATE

I found about the same thing with the tractors i looked at.. except the salesman was neither knowledgeable, or a good salesman... he didn't have that 'hungry' look in the eye.. though he was a nice guy, and wasn't afraid to just talk, or admit it when he didn't know an answer to a question... a real salesman would probably just make up something... /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Looks like you could buy one of these tractors, add some wire loom, and make a few minor changes, like shielding the wires under the fender, and make a front bumper with a low brace /brush guard around that exposed steering ram. fairly cheaply.

As for the fenders.. at least they are metal... I would rather that than plastic.

I'm guessing the'll ding up alot. And the fiberglass hood will chip.. but unless abused should be easy to repair.

Overall I like it, as a project tractor, which is what I considered my 8n to be..

Soundguy
 
   / Farm Pro tractors from Homier Sales #14  
Re: Farm Pro tractors from Homier Sales UPDATE

FYI, the new Jinma should be coming with a metal shield infront of the steering cylinder. It will prevent brush from tearing at the rubber cyl protective sleave. It will do nothing about damage caused by large rocks or stumps.

I went back and forth over side cyl vs front cyl, when I ordered my tractor last spring. I ended up with front, and it has performed well, and haven't collided with any large unmovable object. Just for insurance, I did purchase a spare cyl and mounts.

I prefer the metal fenders over the fiberglass ones. The fiberglass ones, come closer to the tire and have had issues with chains hitting them. Some like the styling of the fiber ones.

The stadard wiring under the fender does invite trouble with any brush. A couple of wire ties clears that up. I don't know of any tightly streached wires on my tractor, but it wouln't surprise me. While the wiring isn't perfect, it is rather straight forward, and not that hard to work on. Norm on CTOA was our resident electrical expert.

I appreciate any open and honest evaluations of Jinma.
 
   / Farm Pro tractors from Homier Sales #15  
Re: Farm Pro tractors from Homier Sales UPDATE

Ive got a 248 Felbackhoe and oter atttachments.

The Steel fenders are pretty good, haven't dented mine yet and had the old lady likes to ride along some and sits attop the left one all the time... I'm not going to tell you her weight but needless to say it (the fender) is taking lots of abuse there! /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif As far as hood, I've been running the back hoe alot and hard. 1500 RPM warms up her a bit and the hood traps alot of unwanted heat under it. while it has reached 90+ degrees C, I usually open up the hood and leave it open for added cooling (note 100 C is boiling and I just like to keep it under the 95 mark) Now while bouncing it around with HOE I've dropped the hood 10+ times from full open. scares the crapolla out of you but hasn't done any damage yet. (BANG behind you while working kinds of makes you jump a bit!) I sometimes use a prop stick any more cause it don't need to be full open on the hood prop. and there is no good spot for the stick to set down low and it usually viberates off under the bouncing dropping onto the stick and pinces it. 1/2" one was broken in half no damage to hood.

I've also drove through enourmous multi floral rose bushes ini the 20' in dia range some bigger using FEL for ripping them out, it has scraped up the hood wiht the thorns on the paint but no physical damage. done other destructive things to her too. some photos are at my home page and at Johns's web site mine is

http://www.bright.net/~ispike/home2Mark M /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
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I'm still seriously considering the purchase of one of these. I'm tired of messing with the 2N and 8N and it would be nice to have ANYTHING brand new. If my wife wasn't laid off right now, I wouldn't hesitate about it.
 
   / Farm Pro tractors from Homier Sales #17  
Re: Farm Pro tractors from Homier Sales UPDATE

Just wanted to bring attention to the fact that there are now over 80 dealers for FarmPro tractors across the US, so don't need to wait on the Road show! Most do charge a little higher price to offset freight, but having a dealer to turn to should more than compensate for the extra $$$. The dealer network is also there to support the warranty claims for the ones sold by the travelling show. I have been told that Homier is the largest importer of Jinma tractors in the US. I have seen a lot of posts down grading the Homier Jinmas. As for assembly experience, they are gaining it rapidly since the assemble and pay for labor on the warrantee!

While it is true that the $3499 (plus freight and dealer expenses) 20HP 2WD does not have power steering, all other model do. All have Tach, folding ROPS, Sun shield, two stage clutch, swinging draw bar, cat 1 3 pt with hyd lift, quick disconnects to add a loader, (even on the 2Wd, but I wouldn't do it!). They have omitted the spring seat on all models, and they use the individual guages (a service advantage?) However, the 30 HP has Hyd. ports on rear and features dual hydralic pumps. I also understand there is now a 55HP model (not JInma), but don't know what the retail on that will be. It would not surprise me if it will only be offered through the dealers, as the Koyker loaders are, instead of the ZL-20 from China.
 

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