Farm tractor models to avoid

   / Farm tractor models to avoid #42  
hey what knid of dutez to avoid
 
   / Farm tractor models to avoid #43  
My family has always tried to avoid the multi-power on the massey's due to a bad experience with a 165 with it installed.

I heard that the same designer that worked on the multipower with massey ferguson moved on to ford to do there design for awhile and then on to john deere to do there powershift. And supposedly when he got to the powershift he got the bugs worked out?

Is there any really truth to this? I originally heard it from a guy with green flowing through his veins so it could just be hearsay.
 
   / Farm tractor models to avoid #44  
Long tractors are great!! Lots of parts available, Parts are cheap, Bulletproof diesel engines. The UTB ones built in Romania are the ones to get.
 
   / Farm tractor models to avoid #45  
I would avoid Belarus tractors. Very poor quality.
 
   / Farm tractor models to avoid #46  
I doubt any are entirely made in USA, but JD is about as close as you can get. The 4000 series CUT's are assembled in GA and use a North-American JD Powertech engine. As far as I know, the company has never had foreign ownership.

I thought the 4000 series were yanmar engines? My uncles jd 4400 is a yanmar 30something Hp deisel. maybe that is a 44 series?
 
   / Farm tractor models to avoid #47  
Any of the "odd" brands right before they died. You never know what parts where used. Like the David brown sourced Olivers or the last of the Whites.
Acutally I'll go out on the limb and say any of the late 70s early 80s utility Olivers. Some where Italian some where English. Good luck with that at an AGCO dealer.
 
   / Farm tractor models to avoid #48  
I would avoid Belarus tractors. Very poor quality.

I have to agree. I'm shocked to see others post good things about these poorly designed, poorly constructed beasts made with recycled scrap iron. At one time there were about 5 dealers in my area. Now there are none and all 5 dealers deeply regret ever selling them because the Belarus tractors ruined some long existing friendships due to their poor quality and being very unreliable. There are dozens around here just sitting in fields where they stopped.
 
   / Farm tractor models to avoid #49  
Do not get any john deere or kubota,:D
 
   / Farm tractor models to avoid #50  
Stay away from the Ford tractors with selecto-speed transmissions. They had a lot of problems with them.
 
   / Farm tractor models to avoid #51  
Sorry Clem, I should have said 4000 - 20 series (ie 4120, 4320,4520, and 4720). These are the ones with the American-made JD Powertech engines. Also, my 4120 has been completely trouble-free in the 5 years I have owned it, proving to me once again, just like all my Chevy trucks have, that Americans still build fine-quality products. I will admit there are some sub-par products produced here, such as my wife's Ford Windstar van that basically self-destructed electronically after (5) years and which she replaced with a Toyota (for some reason, Chevy stopped making mini-vans). Chevy trucks and John Deere tractors have never let me or the last (3) generations of my family down and I have no reason to think they ever will. My 2000 3/4-ton Silverado still runs like it did when new, as does my grandad's 1950 JD M.
 
   / Farm tractor models to avoid #52  
The older Oliver Row crops are pretty tough. Stay away from the kubota L210. They only made it in 72 and 73 and only imported them in the US in 73. Motor parts are obsolete. Ive heard Farmtracs are hard to get parts for too.
 
   / Farm tractor models to avoid #54  
Stay away from the Ford tractors with selecto-speed transmissions. They had a lot of problems with them.

The very very early ones did have issues -- 50 years ago. Those issues have been fixed many moons ago, if you get one made in the late 1960's to early 1970's or newer they are as reliable as any other power shift.


Not that a guy with my handle would know about them at all:laughing:


Dargo - Yeah the Rusty Rusky tractors were nothing but problems around here too. One guy I know had a leak from a casting -- factory had slathered on body putty to cover voids that went the thickness of the axle housing! They still come up for sale for real cheap. When I see that, I think "poor sucker!"
 

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