Farmpro vs KAMA

[greg_g]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( There is absolutely NO way you can compare Kama and Jinma. )</font>
That's a pretty sweeping statement Harry. In the case of my KM454 and above, true - but I was careful to point that out above.

But you're not taking into consideration that TaiShan - specifically the TS254 and TS354 - are "little Kamas". A comparison of these models with JM254s and JM354s is fair, especially considering TS254 uses a Y385 engine.

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[billbill1]

Greg, I thought I read somewhere (can't find it now) that you had the Pat's Easychange. Do you like it? I think one would work for me as my implements are all spaced within 1" of being the same. Thanks

 

[bluechip]

The TS series (pre KAMA) have been imported many years. I have ordered (and received) many parts for early 1990's TS tractors. They didn't really take off as well as they might have because they only used two cylinder engines. The Chassis of the TS series is long proven and is reported to be the most widely used 30HP class chassis in the Chinese home market. The KM series was designed with export in mind (as is the case with all KAMA branded products, from genrators to bandsaws, etc). Duetz Fahr had input on the design and it has proven to be even more reliable than the TS series. The KMs have been coming to the US for a few years and sold under various names. Of course you will hear more about Jinmas, they are sold in the thousands each year where KAMAs are sold in the hundreds, remember, only a relatively small sample of owners participate in these forums, usually those looking for help, so it does slant the picture slightly.

I personally think the KAMA KM series is the best bang for the buck in the 45/50hp class, it is priced low, even by Chinese standards and in that class, I think there are many more KMs here in the US than JMs.

I have also seen an improvement in the Jinma and Farm Pro tractors we sell. The fit and finish and cosmetics continue to improve as well as assembly quality. The KAMA 35 and JIMNA 35 are the most competitive with each other in my opinion and the choice between them becomes a matter of personal preference and choice of dealer. But for a little more money than these 30/35HP tractors, you get so much more in the KAMA KM 454, just my slightly biased, but heartfelt opinion.

 

[greg_g]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Greg, I thought I read somewhere (can't find it now) that you had the Pat's Easychange. Do you like it? )</font>
Be happy to discuss it offline Bill. Don't think I've got your email address though. If you don't mind, send me yours via the forum private message function - and we'll pick it up from there.

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[Harrygoodwrench]

Yes Greg that might be a sweeping statement but its not a fair comparision. Its like trying to compare a F150 to a F350. They are in same size catagory but not the same size class.

 

[greg_g]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Yes Greg that might be a sweeping statement but its not a fair comparision. Its like trying to compare a F150 to a F350. They are in same size catagory but not the same size class. )</font>
Not sure what you mean by "same size catagory but not the same size class". That almost sounds like you've established a position that all KAMAs are superior to all Jinmas.

Again, I think I was pretty clear about qualifying my past JM254 experience against my current KM454 experience. But what's unfair about comparing
the Jinma JM254 with the Kama-TS254,
the Jinma JM354 with the Kama-TS354, and
the Jinma JM454 with the KAMA KM454?
Seems like a pretty level playing field to me Harry.....let the best tractor win.

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