FarmTrac Troubles

[blueliner]

Lgim and EasyEd,

Thanks for joining and participating at the "Farmtrac Troubles" thread. You're one segment of the demographic the core bloggers have aimed for. It appears you've already received some heat from recent postings. Welcome to the Jungle.

In all fairness, just you've made some valid points, your lack of familiarity with the details of this case reveals itself. Segments one, two and three of a local N.C. paper series may be the primer to help get you up to speed. Hope those help.

For the common citizenry (or those ones devoid of kickbacks from the ABL/floorplanner), Farmtrac retailer's string of events -- and their scope -- may be a bit to get your arms around. This writer has followed it since a rainy January day in Tarboro last year and it *still* can be overwhelming at times.

You're welcome to post or PM with any additional questions. After all, we know it takes more than one Orr to row a boat.

--b

 

[redneckford]

Lgim and EasyEd,

Thanks for joining and participating at the "Farmtrac Troubles" thread. You're one segment of the demographic the core bloggers have aimed for. It appears you've already received some heat from recent postings. Welcome to the Jungle.

In all fairness, just you've made some valid points, your lack of familiarity with the details of this case reveals itself. Segments one, two and three of a local N.C. paper series may be the primer to help get you up to speed. Hope those help.

For the common citizenry (or those ones devoid of kickbacks from the ABL/floorplanner), Farmtrac retailer's string of events -- and their scope -- may be a bit to get your arms around. This writer has followed it since a rainy January day in Tarboro last year and it *still* can be overwhelming at times.

You're welcome to post or PM with any additional questions. After all, we know it takes more than one Orr to row a boat.

--b

I know life ain't fair but to give John Deere $2 billion dollars of bail out funds and leave these Farmtrac dealers in the lurch is just "plane" darn WRONG!!!!
WONDER if it is because John Deere is too BIG to fell or that they are just greedy wanting some free money!!!! My bucket must have a hole in it----it ain't filling up????? Who is really broke and do not know it yet----just ask a Farmtrac dealer how it feels----to have a John Deere Dealer find out that your company has closed down before you know a thing---Thanks Gambler---but what is really happening out there---is it worst than WE KNOW!!!!!

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

Hey All,
How do we as consumers protect ourselves?

Don't buy a tractor from the 3rd Tier brands. The commitment these companies make to their customers and dealers is shallow. Spend 20 minutes on Google and you can find an easy dozen stories of companies who imported machines and went belly up. I don't know what people expect... you buy a Tool at Harbor Freight and expect junk, but you buy knockoff tractors and expect what?! Just because its a more expensive purchase does not imply stability, support, good engineering, etc that has been proven by the major venders.

 

[case1570]

Don't buy a tractor from the 3rd Tier brands.

Was IH a 3rd tier brand, how about white. Your lines are not protected from what happened either. I think your statement just promotes your lines right now.
Case
PS When did Kubota not become a 3rd tier line????????

 

[Tim C.]

MessickFarmEqu, you never cease to amaze me.

Hey Bird, what do you think of this one? He just slapped all but three of your advertisers at one time.

Tim

 

[redneckford]

Don't buy a tractor from the 3rd Tier brands. The commitment these companies make to their customers and dealers is shallow. Spend 20 minutes on Google and you can find an easy dozen stories of companies who imported machines and went belly up. I don't know what people expect... you buy a Tool at Harbor Freight and expect junk, but you buy knockoff tractors and expect what?! Just because its a more expensive purchase does not imply stability, support, good engineering, etc that has been proven by the major venders.

yeah!! they are not big enough to qualify for government bail out(JD gets $2 Billion)---wonder if Fiat is buying part of Chrysler so that they can qualify--oh wait they are already the parent company of CIH and New Holland---who has the money invested --the dealer? ---the company? ---or stock holders? How big and safe was IH when they run out of cash????? Messick that line does not play in today's world ---to many companies lie about their profits and losses----it is all about today's stock price not long term profit!!! COMMITMENT!!! do the companies of today know what that word even means---You know well that you can work day and night but if they back order a part all you can do is wait!!! Global economy-----world excuse!!!!

 

[SESS]

Don't buy a tractor from the 3rd Tier brands. The commitment these companies make to their customers and dealers is shallow. Spend 20 minutes on Google and you can find an easy dozen stories of companies who imported machines and went belly up. I don't know what people expect... you buy a Tool at Harbor Freight and expect junk, but you buy knockoff tractors and expect what?! Just because its a more expensive purchase does not imply stability, support, good engineering, etc that has been proven by the major venders.

Isn't John Deere part of the "big guys" and they still had to get a $2 billion loan from the Feds. I don't think ANYONE is exempt from financial problems.

Your comments sometimes just make me shake my head because I don't know if you pull them from thin air or someplace lower on your body.

 

[SESS]

After reading this article about the big "T", just goes to show that dishonest people will never win no matter how big and bad they think they are. Truth and honesty will prevail.

Norway's oil fund drops Textron, Barrick stock: Associated Press Business News: TXT - MSN Money

 

[longtrman]

Montana tractors had taken off well and they have had success with LS tractors.LS tractors coming directly leaves them with difficult choices which means difficult times for dealers dealing with Montana.The good news is that if LS wants to be a success it will have to take care of both Montana amd Farmtrac tractors manufatured by them.Maybe they work out a deal with Montana.who knows??
The dealers dealing in LS tractors have to weigh their options of which way to go.

I received a call from the Montana block man a week or two back. During our discussion (his sales pitch) he mentioned that Montana had lost over one hundred dealers last year. He said they were mostly small dealers that needed to go. In talking to another dealer who has kept abreast of the Montana situation the dealer stated that the number is likely closer to 200 dealers lost. Is it any wonder why LS would want to come to the USA directly if they have an honorable concern for the consumers who have purchased Montana/Lg/LS and Farmtrac/LG/LS and McCormick/LG/LS tractors?

 

[redneckford]

I received a call from the Montana block man a week or two back. During our discussion (his sales pitch) he mentioned that Montana had lost over one hundred dealers last year. He said they were mostly small dealers that needed to go. In talking to another dealer who has kept abreast of the Montana situation the dealer stated that the number is likely closer to 200 dealers lost. Is it any wonder why LS would want to come to the USA directly if they have an honorable concern for the consumers who have purchased Montana/Lg/LS and Farmtrac/LG/LS and McCormick/LG/LS tractors?

what did Rodney know???? and when did he know it???? he seems to be able to read between the lines sooner than most------he is going to do great things for his current employer---that builds much of their own equipment----what does TATA build????nothing???? ----can they export-import--oh yeah!!
Does he know Ron????