FEL repair kit

   / FEL repair kit #141  
I'll say it again: My loader failed. It doesn't have to break off and smack you in the head to be a failure.

So by failed, you mean it was no longer usable and could not move at all even with no load on it... :rolleyes:
 
   / FEL repair kit #142  
So by failed, you mean it was no longer usable and could not move at all even with no load on it... :rolleyes:

I'd suggest, when someone else sees your loader and asks why it broke, that constitutes "failure".
 
   / FEL repair kit #143  
I'll say it again: My loader failed.

Am I remembering correctly that your loader became unlevel on the ground? I wouldn't consider that a "failure" but rather damaged. What I meant by catastrophic failure was having the loader torque tube suddenly split/break under load so that the operator loses control of either the load or tractor or both. Safety related failure is what I had in mind.

I can appreciate it is tough to work with an unlevel loader but that issue affects many brands other than the cracked Kioti loaders. There are many ways to twist a loader so that it is no longer true and I'm not aware if other KL120/130 owners have had that twisting problem so I don't know if it is really directly related to the cracks.

Sorry if I am remembering incorrectly.
 
   / FEL repair kit #144  
According to Websters online dictionary:

Failure:
Building & Civil Engineering: "The condition at which a structure ceases to fulfil its purpose. It may be due to leakage, deflection, cracking, etc. but it usually does not involve rupture. . Source: European Union. (references)"

I added the bold and italics.
Of course, everyone has their own opinion of what constitutes a failure.
I'll stick with Webster.
Tom
 
   / FEL repair kit #145  
Failure to me is paying money for something and using it as intended and then having it break because it was not built right. Nobody needs to die or get hurt.
What we have here is a FAILURE to communicate!
 
   / FEL repair kit #146  
You are correct that there were no catastrophic loader failures though some of us documented clear progression of cracking over time.

Looking back at the statement that started this little semantic kerfuffle, I'd modified the imprecise term "failure" with "catastrophic". I think that justifies my position that the loader condition I claim has not been reported would be more than a loader that was just poorly performing or out of alignment etc. I understand the point that if the loader isn't functioning up to factory specs then in some way it has "failed" but that is a pretty loose use of the term. The vast majority of us with cracked loaders just kept working as usual until the kits were installed or parts replaced etc. If that is the case then the loader was still fulfilling it's purpose per European Union. I can agree that if ?Gittyup's loader was crooked and he was trying snowplow with it then the loader has failed for him but not catastrophically (unless his ole lady gives him **** for a poor snow removal job:D)
 
   / FEL repair kit #147  
Looking back at the statement that started this little semantic kerfuffle, I'd modified the imprecise term "failure" with "catastrophic". I think that justifies my position that the loader condition I claim has not been reported would be more than a loader that was just poorly performing or out of alignment etc. I understand the point that if the loader isn't functioning up to factory specs then in some way it has "failed" but that is a pretty loose use of the term. The vast majority of us with cracked loaders just kept working as usual until the kits were installed or parts replaced etc. If that is the case then the loader was still fulfilling it's purpose per European Union. I can agree that if ?Gittyup's loader was crooked and he was trying snowplow with it then the loader has failed for him but not catastrophically (unless his ole lady gives him **** for a poor snow removal job:D)

I remember now.......the cracks are (catastrophically) cosmetic per Kioti. :rolleyes:

More later.....

Don
 
   / FEL repair kit #148  
Hi all, it been a while since I last posted, but I got my loader repair kit installed on Monday Feb. 2, 2009. My dealer here on maui took care of everything. I did not fill out any paper work or anything. He registered my machine when I bought it years ago and did so for everyone else he sold a tractor too. He said so far I am the only one that had cracks. I thought mine were pretty small, but he figured give the ground I am working he was not surprised. I has been a little wet out so did not get any pics of the kit and don't know if anyone else posted any yet. But I can post some in a few days.

aloha
joe
 
   / FEL repair kit #149  
Good for you! Any pictures?

You must live closer to the plant.. Mine is stuck in never never land..
 
   / FEL repair kit #150  
been a little wet out so did not get any pics of the kit and don't know if anyone else posted any yet. But I can post some in a few days.

aloha
joe

Hey Joe, we want photos of your tractor at dawn on the rim of Haleakala or as a second choice somewhere along the Hana Road or maybe sunset in Lahaina. Don't disappoint us.:cool:

Aloha from Snowland.
 

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