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FEL subframe bowing
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harley53red
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JerryG
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Harley,
Were you pushing with the loader or the front bumper?
Were you pushing with the loader or the front bumper?
fish_wisperer
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you do have to push into a pile of dirt before you can lift it, this shouldnt have happened, unless of course you rammed the trees after building up speed.
Outlander1
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Saw your pix and got scared......Ran out to the garage to check mine. Right where yours has bowed there are plates welded to the underside of the top of the rail. It's a Woods. This makes me think that this is a problem that caught up with Woods at some point and this is/was their remedy. I guess I wonder why they did not weld plates on the bottom as well? Sorry for your problem. I do feel your pain.......
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harley53red
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Jerry,
I was using the loader bucket. I raise it to about 4-5 feet above ground....slowly drive up to the cedar tree...and push it over, exposing one side of the roots. By having the bucket at that height, the tree acts as a lever! Then I would lower the bucket....dig under the exposed root....and lift. I've seen many tractors used that way on cedar trees. I'll just have to make a few "design improvements" in order to be able to use mine this way. I'll post pics when I get it done!
I was using the loader bucket. I raise it to about 4-5 feet above ground....slowly drive up to the cedar tree...and push it over, exposing one side of the roots. By having the bucket at that height, the tree acts as a lever! Then I would lower the bucket....dig under the exposed root....and lift. I've seen many tractors used that way on cedar trees. I'll just have to make a few "design improvements" in order to be able to use mine this way. I'll post pics when I get it done!
JerryG
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In the past, I have done many trees just like you have stated. The reason that I asked the question was given the way a loader is designed and given the way loader pressure is applied to a tractor, I don't understand or can't see how the rails would bow out. It would be easy to see how they would bow down, but not up. If you find out anything, please let us know.
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harley53red
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Jerry,
I'm not sure how to explain it. I am certainly NOT an engineer or physicist, but, I supposed it has to do with there being a rotational force on the upright part of the frame that the FEL arms are attached to. The FEL is pushing toward the back of the tractor from a point near the top of the upright. The tractor is pushing forward on the unright from the bottom where it attaches to the tractor. These 2 force cause the upright to want to rotate, and this force caused the frame arms to bow. Least that's the only explanation I can come up with!
I'm not sure how to explain it. I am certainly NOT an engineer or physicist, but, I supposed it has to do with there being a rotational force on the upright part of the frame that the FEL arms are attached to. The FEL is pushing toward the back of the tractor from a point near the top of the upright. The tractor is pushing forward on the unright from the bottom where it attaches to the tractor. These 2 force cause the upright to want to rotate, and this force caused the frame arms to bow. Least that's the only explanation I can come up with!
I've looked at mine after I saw the pictures you posted and I still can't see how it happened. I'm hoping I never have the same first hand knowledge. Is there a way to pull it back using a portapower, like they use in an autobody shop and then weld in a stiffener on the inside?
