RED BRAND also makes a goat and sheep wire. They "critters " can get their heads in and out of it without gettin stuck. A int no such thing as a tight fence with goats that ive seen. They will lean into it as hard as they can and take off walking It must feel good /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I have pigmy goats and barbadose sheep on 10 acres also. Never have had a problem with em getting out ever . My wire is 38" with 2 strands of barb wire 5" apart, 48" total hight. I wish I had never puy the barb wire on the top. I think I have one sunday go ta meeting shirt that dont have a tear in it. If they have plenty of ruffage to eat you shouldn't have any problems. Poison oak and ivey is their chocolate! A jenny is a must here with the coyots. A jack aint worth his feed as fare as pasture policeing goes. Steel Corner post and streachers are very common here. dont know what to tell ya there except , steel and sackrete throw in a bunch of overkill and you will be set for a long time." TOO DEEP,TOO BIG, TOO MUCH SACKRETE" Nothing looks worse than cock-eyed corners! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif You kno, pulling up or out of the ground on one side.. Good luck