Fighting 'Solar Farm' Installation

[bnold]

Burning fossil fuels = not clean
Nuclear = not clean
Hydro = not clean
Solar = not clean
Wind = not clean
Tidal = not clean
Wood/biomass = not clean
Geothermal = not clean

*Add the word ‘clean’ in front of any of the above categories = not clean

Perhaps we need a new metric

Is there a rating system that could possibly compare all the elements of just how ‘not clean’ all of these producers could be?

 

[Fuddyduddy1952]

Well, we've come a long way with clean technology. Take coal for example: "Coal cleaning by 'washing' has been standard practice in developed countries for some time. It reduces emissions of ash and sulfur dioxide when the coal is burned. Electrostatic precipitators and fabric filters can remove 99% of the fly ash from the flue gases – these technologies are in widespread use."
My cousin has 25 foundries and people call about smoke coming out of his stacks and he has to explain it's steam not smoke.
I'm certainly no expert but planting trees and plants that turn CO2 to O seems to make a lot of sense. Gas and diesel vehicles today are the cleanest they've ever been.

 

[Hay Dude]

Burning fossil fuels = not clean
Nuclear = not clean
Hydro = not clean
Solar = not clean
Wind = not clean
Tidal = not clean
Wood/biomass = not clean
Geothermal = not clean

*Add the word ‘clean’ in front of any of the above categories = not clean

Perhaps we need a new metric

Is there a rating system that could possibly compare all the elements of just how ‘not clean’ all of these producers could be?

That would be nice, but that list would be “skewed” by the researcher, since all science is now political science.

 

[Hay Dude]

Well, we've come a long way with clean technology. Take coal for example: "Coal cleaning by 'washing' has been standard practice in developed countries for some time. It reduces emissions of ash and sulfur dioxide when the coal is burned. Electrostatic precipitators and fabric filters can remove 99% of the fly ash from the flue gases – these technologies are in widespread use."
My cousin has 25 foundries and people call about smoke coming out of his stacks and he has to explain it's steam not smoke.
I'm certainly no expert but planting trees and plants that turn CO2 to O seems to make a lot of sense. Gas and diesel vehicles today are the cleanest they've ever been.

I agree with everything you say, but those who oppose fossil fuels are on a “religious crusade”. there’s no stopping them.

 

[orezok]

A deflection on your part for sure, but I think it’s my right as an American citizen to inquire how much G_______t “assistance” is being given to solar and wind power?

It you want to talk subsidies, how about the Department of Agriculture data show that between 1985 and 2021, a total of 19,654 farmers received payments every year. The average recipient collected $942,458 over the 37-year period, for a total of $18.5 billion.

 

[riptides]

What do you do in a dope state? Just work harder to pay more taxes so the dope heads can be paid to stay home? Pretty soon, I'll just stay home too.

Have some cheetos. Crunchy are best.

 

[riptides]

It you want to talk subsidies, how about the Department of Agriculture data show that between 1985 and 2021, a total of 19,654 farmers received payments every year. The average recipient collected $942,458 over the 37-year period, for a total of $18.5 billion.

Especially those claiming crop losses.

 

[Grumpycat]

$40k for 40 array solar panel mounted on ground.

The parts for that is only $20k. The installer has marked up labor and "system design" by $15k because with the ignorance of the market they can.

 

[Grumpycat]

If solar panels were built like roofing panels and served both functions for residential homes, it wouldn't be obnoxious to me. But then there are those who hate metal roofing and think everything has to have asphalt shingles.

Tesla makes exactly what you describe. Costs about double that of generic PV panels so they don't do very many.

Solar Roof | Tesla

Solar Roof transforms your existing roof and brings it to life with beautiful solar tiles that can power your home for decades with the energy you produce.

www.tesla.com

 

[Grumpycat]

Gosh grump...how'd you get to be so smart?
I went back to the county and said what the heck...200+ft. towers with flashing FAA red lights on top are much better than more short towers and antennas on EXISTING electric poles.
Thanks a lot for your wisdom!

Would take several hundred mini-cells on telephone poles to equal one 200' tower.

How is it you like many hundred telephone poles and do not like one cell towers?