filling tires with water & antifreez?
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Re: filling tires with Beet Juice
If you are not having a FEL I would just have your dealer order you a set of rear wheel weights it consist of 4 weights 2 for each wheel. this should solve most traction problems without a loader
If you are not having a FEL I would just have your dealer order you a set of rear wheel weights it consist of 4 weights 2 for each wheel. this should solve most traction problems without a loader
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Re: filling tires with Beet Juice
I've had a few conversations with my dealer about Rim Guard and other options besides calcium chloride. He say his tire guy can't do windshield washer fluid anymore. Supposedly some of the alcohol in it separates and goes up into the airspace at the top of the tire. His insurance company stopped him from using it due to danger of explosion if exposed to a spark during tire maintenance. I said I doubted that, since alcohol is not especially explosive (much less so than gas/deisel). He said maybe it was just the flamability of it? (again, I have trouble with that... how does he get insurance to work around gas?).
He claims the tire guy said that the beet juice also has alcohol in it, so his insurance won't let him use it. Dealer is still interested, so I forwarded some info to him provided by others on here.
It's a moot point from my point of view... it turns out they had already filled the tires on my TC33D with calcium chloride when they first delivered it. (I had thought they were waiting for the loader to come in, but apparently not. I had requested it at purchase before I was educated by all of you helpful folks on this forum).
John
I've had a few conversations with my dealer about Rim Guard and other options besides calcium chloride. He say his tire guy can't do windshield washer fluid anymore. Supposedly some of the alcohol in it separates and goes up into the airspace at the top of the tire. His insurance company stopped him from using it due to danger of explosion if exposed to a spark during tire maintenance. I said I doubted that, since alcohol is not especially explosive (much less so than gas/deisel). He said maybe it was just the flamability of it? (again, I have trouble with that... how does he get insurance to work around gas?).
He claims the tire guy said that the beet juice also has alcohol in it, so his insurance won't let him use it. Dealer is still interested, so I forwarded some info to him provided by others on here.
It's a moot point from my point of view... it turns out they had already filled the tires on my TC33D with calcium chloride when they first delivered it. (I had thought they were waiting for the loader to come in, but apparently not. I had requested it at purchase before I was educated by all of you helpful folks on this forum).
John
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Re: filling tires with Beet Juice
John,
Do you know how much weight was added to your tractor or the total overall weight of the tractor and the fluided tires? If yes, what kind of tires do you have? I'm thinking about adding some type of fluid to my NH 1925 (predecessor to the TC33) which takes the same size tires, although I currently have turn tires on my machine. I'd like to get an idea of how much total weight this would add.
Thanks, Mark
John,
Do you know how much weight was added to your tractor or the total overall weight of the tractor and the fluided tires? If yes, what kind of tires do you have? I'm thinking about adding some type of fluid to my NH 1925 (predecessor to the TC33) which takes the same size tires, although I currently have turn tires on my machine. I'd like to get an idea of how much total weight this would add.
Thanks, Mark
glennmac
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Re: filling tires with Beet Juice
Mark, what size are your tires? I have the Goodyear Farm Tire manual which lists fill weights for plain water and for CaCl for various tires. Or you can probably find the same charts on Goodyear's website.
Mark, what size are your tires? I have the Goodyear Farm Tire manual which lists fill weights for plain water and for CaCl for various tires. Or you can probably find the same charts on Goodyear's website.
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Re: filling tires with Beet Juice
I tried that and Goodyear does not list that portion of the guide. I was able to find some info on Firestone's site, but they do not list my tire size. I have turf tires and I believe they are 13.6 x 16. I think fluiding these tires will add about 200 lbs. per tire.
I tried that and Goodyear does not list that portion of the guide. I was able to find some info on Firestone's site, but they do not list my tire size. I have turf tires and I believe they are 13.6 x 16. I think fluiding these tires will add about 200 lbs. per tire.
glennmac
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Re: filling tires with Beet Juice
Goodyear lists CaCl solution mixed at two strengths: 3.5 lbs and 5 lbs per gallon of water. For a 13.6 x 16.1 tire, the chart lists the following fill weight per tire:
--water alone: 258 lbs
--CaCl @ 3.5lbs/gal: 308 lbs.
--CaCl @ 5 lbls/gal: 333 lbs.
All these weights are for filling the tire up to the top of the rim (so-called 75% fill).
Arnco SuperFlex foam fill would give more weight and give permanent flat protection.
Goodyear lists CaCl solution mixed at two strengths: 3.5 lbs and 5 lbs per gallon of water. For a 13.6 x 16.1 tire, the chart lists the following fill weight per tire:
--water alone: 258 lbs
--CaCl @ 3.5lbs/gal: 308 lbs.
--CaCl @ 5 lbls/gal: 333 lbs.
All these weights are for filling the tire up to the top of the rim (so-called 75% fill).
Arnco SuperFlex foam fill would give more weight and give permanent flat protection.
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Re: filling tires with water & antifreez?
Where's this "three-point hitch stress" you mentioned?
I did a search...only thing I found was your quote.
Where's this "three-point hitch stress" you mentioned?
I did a search...only thing I found was your quote.
jb112454
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Re: filling tires with Beet Juice
your recommendation about short valve stems is a good one. had a stem get ripped of by something and all my fluid shot out. luckily it was not in an area where there were no animals. limped back to the work shop and jacked it up. now in the process of replacing the stem. i'm assuming that the stem has to come out from the inside so i have to break the tire off the seat. is this a job i could do or should i take it down town? thanks
your recommendation about short valve stems is a good one. had a stem get ripped of by something and all my fluid shot out. luckily it was not in an area where there were no animals. limped back to the work shop and jacked it up. now in the process of replacing the stem. i'm assuming that the stem has to come out from the inside so i have to break the tire off the seat. is this a job i could do or should i take it down town? thanks
Dan_Ives
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Re: filling tires with Beet Juice
JB
You will have to brake tire loose to put the valve stems in. If you have your tires loaded now I would recommend having a tractor tire place do it. It can be a big mess tring to do it your self.
Dan
JB
You will have to brake tire loose to put the valve stems in. If you have your tires loaded now I would recommend having a tractor tire place do it. It can be a big mess tring to do it your self.
Dan