Fire Extinguisher (I think I was lucky)

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2017 NH Workmaster 33. Previous tractor: NH TC24D
I owned a NH TC24D for 13 years until I recently traded it in for a 2017 NH Workmaster 33. The Workmaster has a regen every 5 hours or so. I got concerned with the increased exhaust temps, especially when bush hogging way back in the back of my property where I could expect no help and the grass and weeds were always 18 or taller, much taller. So I decided to add a fire extinguisher to the new tractor. Nothing new here, but maybe I will save someone some research time. The pics show an Amerex 2.5 lb abc with the metal mount. I installed it on my 2 x 3 ROPS with two 3.5 stainless hose clamps.
 

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   / Fire Extinguisher (I think I was lucky) #2  
ABC will do good for something on the tractor but won’t do much for a grass fire. Carry a shovel or other digging/scraping tool and check out the Indian Backpack Pumps. A little water will go a long way.
 
   / Fire Extinguisher (I think I was lucky) #3  
I need to look to see where I could mount a fire extinguisher in my cab. I do have a first aid kit, but no extinguisher...yet.
 
   / Fire Extinguisher (I think I was lucky) #4  
I remember when Ipurchased my firs bran new 1999 Kubota L series tractor and thought it was invincible.
It has the HST tranny which was new to me but didn't stop me from getting right to work.
First thing was cleaning a large brush area and get it ready for a burn pile.
I lit the fire, had two people nearby with 2" fire hoses charged "in case" of any get away even though the area had
a large safe area.
As I was feeding the fire with the grappler reaching far into the fire and dropping my loads.
One time I drove in a little deep where the front tire were in the fire - and the tractor stalled.

There I am sitting on a stalled open air tractor and the load I just dropped ignighted and I'm stalled on the fire
with flames licking the entire front of my trartor, what do I do? Do I jump because I can still make a clean getaway
or start the tractor and hope it starts?

Well I hit the key it started and I flew out of there with smoking tires and a few melted plastic bits on the front.

I'm guessing I had seconds either way.

Now you know why I didn't go to college.
 
   / Fire Extinguisher (I think I was lucky) #5  
Looks good. I have been considering adding one to a few pieces of equipment. If for no other reason to just have them around and know where they are at.
 
   / Fire Extinguisher (I think I was lucky) #6  
Just remember. You need to be able to direct the extinguisher at the source of the fire. THAT, may not be achieavable given the design of much modern equipment.

A friend set fire to a tractor while doing a welding repair. It had a plastic fuel line with a top mounted gravity fed tank. A really, really bad situation!
 
   / Fire Extinguisher (I think I was lucky) #7  
Just remember. You need to be able to direct the extinguisher at the source of the fire. THAT, may not be achieavable given the design of much modern equipment.

A friend set fire to a tractor while doing a welding repair. It had a plastic fuel line with a top mounted gravity fed tank. A really, really bad situation!

There are a lot of welding fire stories out there. Have several FE in the garage. I was wondering if the 2.5 Lb is big enough, especially for a fuel fire.
 
   / Fire Extinguisher (I think I was lucky) #8  
Having fire fighting equipment at hand is one thing, but a having a spotter is just as important. A welder, burned down a whole (newly rennovated) ice cream factory near here some years back!

I have seen too many welders that think it's funny when people get excited about sparks and a "little" fire.

But back to the topic. To me, it's more important to consider before hand, where a fire is likely to break out and how to get at it, than where to mount your extinguisher.
 
   / Fire Extinguisher (I think I was lucky) #9  
I remember when Ipurchased my firs bran new 1999 Kubota L series tractor and thought it was invincible.
It has the HST tranny which was new to me but didn't stop me from getting right to work.
First thing was cleaning a large brush area and get it ready for a burn pile.
I lit the fire, had two people nearby with 2" fire hoses charged "in case" of any get away even though the area had
a large safe area.
As I was feeding the fire with the grappler reaching far into the fire and dropping my loads.
One time I drove in a little deep where the front tire were in the fire - and the tractor stalled.

There I am sitting on a stalled open air tractor and the load I just dropped ignighted and I'm stalled on the fire
with flames licking the entire front of my trartor, what do I do? Do I jump because I can still make a clean getaway
or start the tractor and hope it starts?

Well I hit the key it started and I flew out of there with smoking tires and a few melted plastic bits on the front.

I'm guessing I had seconds either way.

Now you know why I didn't go to college.

I think that sounds like perfect college material...... :)
 
   / Fire Extinguisher (I think I was lucky) #10  
I owned a NH TC24D for 13 years until I recently traded it in for a 2017 NH Workmaster 33. The Workmaster has a regen every 5 hours or so. I got concerned with the increased exhaust temps, especially when bush hogging way back in the back of my property where I could expect no help and the grass and weeds were always 18 or taller, much taller. So I decided to add a fire extinguisher to the new tractor. Nothing new here, but maybe I will save someone some research time. The pics show an Amerex 2.5 lb abc with the metal mount. I installed it on my 2 x 3 ROPS with two 3.5 stainless hose clamps.

You all give some thought to the handles on those extinguishers. Tree limbs and loose clothing can be a issue. Tree limbs also can pull that safety pin right out. Guess it depends on your mowing conditions, but it’s something to keep in mind.
 
   / Fire Extinguisher (I think I was lucky) #11  
There are a lot of welding fire stories out there. Have several FE in the garage. I was wondering if the 2.5 Lb is big enough, especially for a fuel fire.

A 2-1/2 lb dry chemical is absolutely NOT big enough for a fuel fire!

A 5lb. would be preferred, and a 10lb. would be better.
I have 3- 10lb. and one 20lb.
I keep the 20lb. in my tractor storage bldg.
 
   / Fire Extinguisher (I think I was lucky) #12  
This link was in another post/discussion about fire extinguishers and an UTV fire. Ozerok ?spelling posted this link. Your Shopping Cart



– Element

I'm about ready to order 3 of them. The small size and long time of discharge along with no shelf life and no maintenance makes the $80ea. hurt a lot less.
 
   / Fire Extinguisher (I think I was lucky) #13  
Unfortunately that’s a gimmick. Fire extinguishers have a standard rating for the amount of fire it will extinguish. (Like a 2A10BC). This makes no claims other than how long it will “last”. Second, removing oxygen in an open shop, building or outdoors doesn’t work. The type of extinguisher that removes oxygen is used in sealed rooms typically containing high end electronics. If this thing had a rating, was UL and or NFPA listed it would be a different story.
 
   / Fire Extinguisher (I think I was lucky) #15  
you can buy used water fire extinguishers cheap on eBay.. and all you need to recharge them is water, and an air compressor..
 
   / Fire Extinguisher (I think I was lucky) #16  
Any fire extinguisher is a good thing to have but for a diesel runner I would consider a CO2 extinguisher so it could be blasted in the air intake if there was a runaway diesel. But maybe it doesn't happen often enough to worry about.
 
   / Fire Extinguisher (I think I was lucky) #17  
you can buy used water fire extinguishers cheap on eBay.. and all you need to recharge them is water, and an air compressor..

Using water extinguishers on a fuel fire may actually be worse than no extinguisher at all.
 
   / Fire Extinguisher (I think I was lucky) #19  
Unfortunately that’s a gimmick. Fire extinguishers have a standard rating for the amount of fire it will extinguish. (Like a 2A10BC). This makes no claims other than how long it will “last”. Second, removing oxygen in an open shop, building or outdoors doesn’t work. The type of extinguisher that removes oxygen is used in sealed rooms typically containing high end electronics. If this thing had a rating, was UL and or NFPA listed it would be a different story.

Did explore that site and read how it works? They explain how they are working with the UL folks for testing and that it's a totally different type for them although it's been used in Europe for years. I sent that link to a professional fire fighter buddy and the part where it disrupts the combustion sequence the way a Co2 or Halon would got him curious and he'd like to test one. But not to disregard your skepticism I found this discussion in another forum. It seems to verify their claims. Testing Element fire extinguisher - Pelican Parts Forums
I've got a half dozen "regular" fire ex around the house and shop. It's the size that has me interested for my tractor & trucks, not much bigger than a road flare.
 
   / Fire Extinguisher (I think I was lucky) #20  
I am, and have been, a full time professional firefighter for a few decades now. I did read about the product- their is a two page PDF on the site. I just don’t think it’s a good fit for an outdoor or shop setting. Plus they don’t have a standard and quantifiable rating other than the amount of time it discharges- all others are rated by the amount of fire they extinguish.
 

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