Fire wood= To stack or not???

   / Fire wood= To stack or not??? #1  

namesray

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I have been in the firewood business for about 8 years now. Through that time I have gone from doing around 70 face cord, to currently doing between 300 - 400 face cord a year. I have a repeat customer cliental that I have worked hard for and has made doing fire wood commercially easier. (People can be the most difficult aspect of a business at times.) My fire wood business is going great for the most part.

The problem on the horizon: All the wood plots I have access to currently are thinning out and getting further away. I could secure enough fire wood to continue doing 300 to 400 face cord a year, but that would mean more travel time and thus more expense.

Over the years, I have all the customers on different "tiers" so to say, as I have always given my first group of customers the best deal by stacking the wood they order for them. After all, they are who helped me get started. The second "tier" of customers, I stack the wood for them, but charge them for it. All customers after that, there is no stacking.

It is now to the point, I am doing so much, and I am so busy, stacking is getting in the way of more production. Time is money. I am at a major decision point as to start next year doing everything the same, or let ALL customers know this year there will be NO stacking next year. On one hand, I have come to know these people, and they are good people for the most part, I feel like I am letting them down. On the other hand, some of those customers have complained about the stacking, as to "it wasn't stacked high enough; it was stacked too high and fell over; you stacked it too tight and it didn't dry;" the list goes on. I always stack it how they tell me, tell them the pros and cons, but if it isn't perfect it's my fault. Not every customer is fussy like that, but the few who are drive me crazy. one thought, no more stacking might thin the customers down to a more efficient number for me as I can do 100 to 200 face cord more efficiently then 300-400.

So I ask you as people, what do you think if you were purchasing firewood? Most other fire wood sellers around here DON'T stack it, but not all.
 
   / Fire wood= To stack or not??? #2  
Just dumped in a pile here unless you want to pay a big premium for stacking.

However a couple years back a guy started delivering firewood in the large (1/3? Cord) bags. He charges about 5-10 bucks more than bulk, but its bagged, on a pallet, and its actually stacked in the bag. And he'll put it exactly where you want it with his crane. I dont know how it does it so cheap.

Bagged might be an option to look at. But Id charge more than 10 bucks for the labour and convenience involved.
 
   / Fire wood= To stack or not??? #3  
Nobody stacks wood for you here, Nobody. Wood here goes for 200.00 a cord delivered.
 
   / Fire wood= To stack or not??? #4  
I would stop stacking for free. You have an understandable reason to tell customers who push back; you are forced to go farther for wood and it takes more time, hence your income is falling.

Or

Buy your wood trucked to you in log lengths and then process it yourself. That would give you the time to offer premium services--for a price of course.
 
   / Fire wood= To stack or not??? #5  
The ones you don't charge, start charging at a higher rate than the current stack price.
The ones that you charge, raise the price to the new price above.
The ones that nit pick your stack get to stack it themselves.

In my experience, give people a choice of a higher price. They would rather hear that than we won't stack.
Some will stack it them self and others will pay so they don't have to.

Just some thoughts to consider ...
 
   / Fire wood= To stack or not??? #6  
Amazing... I can't give away cut and seasoned Oak because of the wood burning bans here.

Have even offered to deliver and stack for free in addition to giving the wood away and not a single take at the Hospital where I work... most people pay to get rid of it and every year I have storm fall oaks I am required to clean up to meet the fire suppression rules here.

In years prior... there was a long time firewood family that put everything on pallets and plastic wrapped... they would place anywhere they could drive to.
 
   / Fire wood= To stack or not??? #7  
They would just dump the load where I wanted stacking was up to me. I would tell them that you cannot stack due to the demand.
 
   / Fire wood= To stack or not??? #8  
I never knew anyone could get it stacked. At least not here anyways. But I would just explain that you cant do it all now. ,And maybe suggest someone else to stack it. Maybe someone you know could start a 'mini' business to stack it for them.
 
   / Fire wood= To stack or not??? #9  
You pay for stacking here, and it's usually a local kid, not the person delivering.
 
   / Fire wood= To stack or not??? #10  
You pay $200 to $250 for a full cord here. The $200/full cord will be pine here and further north it will be $250 for a full cord of tamarack or fir. No real hardwood here - closest to hardwood would be apple. Its just dumped wherever you want it. If you want it stacked - you pay extra unless you stack it yourself. Be honest with your clients - your costs have gone up, like everything else - and you must charge to stack or you will be losing money. They will all understand - those that do not like the idea, most likely, will be those that do not the way you stack it anyway. Remember, you are not doing this for charity and not charging a fair price is a really good way for you to find that your cost are exceeding your income.

If you don't have time to stack - make an arrange with local, reliable, high school young-uns to stack the wood for a fair price. Provide your clients with a list of these young-uns and their contact information. They can then choose to stack it themselves or hire off your list.
 

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