First .22 rifle

   / First .22 rifle #31  
Seems like 2-3 people of all ages die every month from ATV's in my line of work in my state.

I'll tell you why to pick a .22 versus a pellet gun. You can spend about as much getting a pellet gun as a .22 to get the same consistency and accuracy, and I'm not sure what value the pellet gun will have in 10 years.

I suspect more kids get hurt going unsupervised with bb guns than kids whose parents supervise them with .22's.

I also remember the days when the kids in high school carried shotguns, deer rifles, squirrel guns and everything else in their car trunks and then went hunting after school.

Well, ya, that makes complete sense. Adult supervision or not.

and kids carrying deer rifles to school in their trunks, I don't know of any middle school or elementary, or preschool children driving themselves to school. lol. High schoolers, it still happens today, they just have to keep them out of sight.

IDK, there's a big difference in the mental capabilities between a 5 year old and an 8-9 year old. I just think 5 year olds are barely aware of their surroundings, ask for help in getting a glass of water, pychologically are not aware of cause and effect (just learning it) I just don't think that they would be ready for a truly dangerous weapon. Seems to me that even 5 years old is too young for those little plastic disk shooting guns when you wife or neighbor takes a disk to the eyeball, let alone a real gun or bbgun. I mean, with adult supervision you could get them to shoot a 22 or bb gun but I hardly think that a 5yo would understand the consequences fully of life, death, injury, permanent trauma to another human, agony and cruelty to wounded game, effects of backstop/target/projectile incompatibilities (a christmas story?).

JMO, unless you can let the child pour his own milk out of the jug, wash dishes, recite your home address, tell the difference between a stranger and friend, and perhaps stay at home alone, get to the bus stop on his own, I would hold off until the child shows a verbalized direct interest in the activity, maybe something less than lethal would be a good starting point. I'm just saying a starting point, not that once the child shows proper behavior and safety behind whatever you use as a starter weapon that the kiddo can't progress. To each your own however. Not my kid and not in my backyard.
 
   / First .22 rifle #32  
Me too! In fact I am still guilty of that on occasion.

I have a cup holder in my truck that catches change, it's got a few .22s mixed in now.

No little kids here...

I bought one of the chipmunk rifles to teach my kids to shoot on. It is still in the safe, ready for the next set of kids/grandkids:D. I started the oldest and the middle one at the same time, about 8 and 6. The youngest was more hyper than the other 2 and he didn't start getting to learn until he was about 10 or 11. They did not get to use a gun alone however until quite a bit later(13 or 14). I learned to shoot when I when I was six or so and rabbit hunting alone by the time I was 7 or 8, with an adult Winchester .22. Anymore if a kid brings a .22 bullet to school in his pocket it is grounds to be expelled. When I was in grade school in the 60's there where always .22 shells mixed in the change in my pocket(my knife was in my other pocket;)) and nobody thought a thing about it.
 
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#33  
Good conversation! I respect everyone's opinion. It's certainly everyone's choice and it's interesting to hear the responses.

So far, the little .22 is something that my daughter and I only bring out when we go to deercamp for father/daughter bonding. At camp we will set up targets (balloons, cans or clays), have fun plinking, learn about safety and handling, spend quality time together and enjoy the outdoors.

Maybe we'll eventually progress to other things as we enjoy our time together. Maybe, someday, we take a squirrel. Maybe, someday, she'll hunt with me for big game. Maybe, someday, we hunt Africa together. If not, that's fine too, there's other memories we will build.

Most importantly, I want to leave a legacy with her of fun times she can remember. Of things we did together and laughs and smiles we shared together. That she learns responsibility and safety. I hope she has memories of our time spent together that she tells my grandkids about someday and I hope she passes on a legacy and tradition that was at the core of her daddy's heart and sole.

I hope she helps to pass on a part of me someday, to the generations that follow in the shadow of our lives.
 
   / First .22 rifle #35  
Good conversation! I respect everyone's opinion. It's certainly everyone's choice and it's interesting to hear the responses.

So far, the little .22 is something that my daughter and I only bring out when we go to deercamp for father/daughter bonding. At camp we will set up targets (balloons, cans or clays), have fun plinking, learn about safety and handling, spend quality time together and enjoy the outdoors.

Maybe we'll eventually progress to other things as we enjoy our time together. Maybe, someday, we take a squirrel. Maybe, someday, she'll hunt with me for big game. Maybe, someday, we hunt Africa together. If not, that's fine too, there's other memories we will build.

Most importantly, I want to leave a legacy with her of fun times she can remember. Of things we did together and laughs and smiles we shared together. That she learns responsibility and safety. I hope she has memories of our time spent together that she tells my grandkids about someday and I hope she passes on a legacy and tradition that was at the core of her daddy's heart and sole.

I hope she helps to pass on a part of me someday, to the generations that follow in the shadow of our lives.

Well, heck... that was put very nicely! :)
 
   / First .22 rifle #36  
There's another thread going here about dangerous toys we all had as kids.

I remember the toy guns that shot these plastic things with a rubber suction cup on the end. We used to take off the rubber suction end to make them hurt more. Then the mfgs started using less powerful springs in the guns. I don't know if they even make them any more.

I agree completely that some of the toys sold for kids ought not to be sold at all. Supervision makes a huge difference in whether something is acceptable or downright dangerous.
 
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#37  
Well, heck... that was put very nicely! :)

Thanks Moss!!:D:D Sometimes the philosophical and sensitive side of me comes out.:p:p

What I said is true though. I think it's what we all wish for, regarding our relationship and legacies with our kids. Regardless of the endeavour, we hope that the things we do with our kids leaves a mark that adds to their life experiences and character in a positive manner.
 
   / First .22 rifle #38  
Thanks Moss!!:D:D Sometimes the philosophical and sensitive side of me comes out.:p:p

What I said is true though. I think it's what we all wish for, regarding our relationship and legacies with our kids. Regardless of the endeavour, we hope that the things we do with our kids leaves a mark that adds to their life experiences and character in a positive manner.

Well said.
 
   / First .22 rifle #39  
Just what every 5-year old needs :rolleyes::rolleyes: --- a gun. Don't tell me you didn't expect this reply :p

Easy does it kanuck, or we'll send a girl scout troop up there and take over your country.
 
   / First .22 rifle #40  
gsganzer, I'm glad you're teaching your daughter to shoot and even more importantly that you are teaching her the 10 commandments. My daddy taught me to shoot about that age with a bolt action .22 and I intend to teach my daughter when the time is right. Although I won't pull the same stunt..I was about 10ish and he hands me the 10 gauge double barrel..says yeah pull both triggers at the same time...it drove me right to the ground..I laugh now but at the time it sure did hurt. Cheers!

btw, I love guns, and I'm a Canadian. :D

The girl scouts will be ordered to spare you and give you a pass.
 

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