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First Serious Project - Clearing 1.5 Acres
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Jim, one thing I wanted to add:
I told you I am learning to farm, so please checkwhat I tell you with someone who knows better, but here's what I learned:
Deer are like rats here. Iput in over 70 little apple trees from grafts,and those *** ate 20 of them...we had regular mortality of 10 more, so I am left with the rest. I can't possibly afford to fence them in like I ought to. Here's what I did to keep deer and coons out - I sprinkle 7 dust on the leaves. Whileyoucannot completely block the plants ability to make food from the sun, you can putjust enough to keep the deerand coons from eating the leaves. They don't like seven is what I am hearing. You wil lneed seven to keep sucking bugs from killing your fleshy plants anyway, so start early with seven, and I hopeit helps. If someone has additinal info onthis, please chime in. a little seven may save your crop, and I can tell you don't need to lose any of it to critters.
I told you I am learning to farm, so please checkwhat I tell you with someone who knows better, but here's what I learned:
Deer are like rats here. Iput in over 70 little apple trees from grafts,and those *** ate 20 of them...we had regular mortality of 10 more, so I am left with the rest. I can't possibly afford to fence them in like I ought to. Here's what I did to keep deer and coons out - I sprinkle 7 dust on the leaves. Whileyoucannot completely block the plants ability to make food from the sun, you can putjust enough to keep the deerand coons from eating the leaves. They don't like seven is what I am hearing. You wil lneed seven to keep sucking bugs from killing your fleshy plants anyway, so start early with seven, and I hopeit helps. If someone has additinal info onthis, please chime in. a little seven may save your crop, and I can tell you don't need to lose any of it to critters.
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How about a spot light and a 30-06? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I have heard the same thing about seven dust. I have also heard of using soap. I have never tried it, but some people I know swear by it. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif I would think deer would get used to any scent sooner or later.
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( How about a spot light and a 30-06? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I have heard the same thing about seven dust. I have also heard of using soap. I have never tried it, but some people I know swear by it. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif I would think deer would get used to any scent sooner or later. )</font>
I have the Spot light (2 million candel light power) and the 30-06 to combat them... however I do have to sleep at times. So far the early morning is when I have seen deer. That will probably change as the food starts growing. If I have too many problems I will plant food to attract them and pick them off and give away the venison. These people need meat as well. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
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I have the Spot light (2 million candel light power) and the 30-06 to combat them... however I do have to sleep at times. So far the early morning is when I have seen deer. That will probably change as the food starts growing. If I have too many problems I will plant food to attract them and pick them off and give away the venison. These people need meat as well. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
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Good show.
Blisters = duct tape--- maybe even applied before starting work.
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Blisters = duct tape--- maybe even applied before starting work.
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Deer are like rats here. . )</font>
Yeah, here too. I have never seen where they did much damage to turnips and collards, though. It might be because we always planted large areas, usually five to ten acres, and the damage wasn't as noticeable as it would be on a small plot. I would suggest getting a bag of rye or wheat seed and scattering it within 25-50 yards of your plantings. I think the deer will leave your greens alone if they have something they like better. Cows will eat turnips and collards, but I have had mine get out of the pasture and walk across a turnip field to get to a rye field.
andrewj is right about the sucking bugs, and sevin is probably the most feasible and economic solution. Remember, though, Sevin has a 14 day waiting period between application and harvest. This won't be that much of a problem with collards, but if you get a good rain on the turnips soon after planting, you should be gathering turnip greens within 5 weeks. They will probably need to be thinned to allow the ones you leave to develop roots.
You will have an insect problem with the collards moreso than the turnips. If you can get the turnips through the stage where the little sucking buggers attack them, you should be home free with them. The major pests here on collards are diamondback moths and cabbage loopers. The best bet there is to start early using Bt (Bacillus Therengensies I think it is spelled) or one of the synthetic pyrethrins such as Ambush. The pyrethrins are pretty expensive, but you can probably get a "homeowner" type container for a plot your size. Be sure that any insecticide you use is cleared for greens, especially if you intend to sell to a grocery store.
You might have a weed problem, again, more in the collards than the turnips. When the turnips start growing, they will outgrow most of the weed pests. Collards are much slower germinating and much slower growing. My daddy always said it took three days to get up a stand of turnips, and three weeks to get up a stand of collards. Don't plant more than you can fertilize and keep the weeds out of. I'll repeat that. DON'T PLANT MORE COLLARDS THAN YOU CAN AFFORD TO FERTILIZE, OR MORE THAN YOU CAN KEEP WEEDED BY HAND.
Most gardeners around here think turnips and collards are easy crops to grow, and that is true if you just have one fifty foot row of each, but when you start trying to do it on a larger scale, they become a very expensive and very labor intensive crop. They also produce a large amount of food on a small plot, and can be a real money-maker. I once kept up with a crop of early turnips I got planted during August. I sold over $5000 of turnips from a one and one-half acre patch.
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Yeah, here too. I have never seen where they did much damage to turnips and collards, though. It might be because we always planted large areas, usually five to ten acres, and the damage wasn't as noticeable as it would be on a small plot. I would suggest getting a bag of rye or wheat seed and scattering it within 25-50 yards of your plantings. I think the deer will leave your greens alone if they have something they like better. Cows will eat turnips and collards, but I have had mine get out of the pasture and walk across a turnip field to get to a rye field.
andrewj is right about the sucking bugs, and sevin is probably the most feasible and economic solution. Remember, though, Sevin has a 14 day waiting period between application and harvest. This won't be that much of a problem with collards, but if you get a good rain on the turnips soon after planting, you should be gathering turnip greens within 5 weeks. They will probably need to be thinned to allow the ones you leave to develop roots.
You will have an insect problem with the collards moreso than the turnips. If you can get the turnips through the stage where the little sucking buggers attack them, you should be home free with them. The major pests here on collards are diamondback moths and cabbage loopers. The best bet there is to start early using Bt (Bacillus Therengensies I think it is spelled) or one of the synthetic pyrethrins such as Ambush. The pyrethrins are pretty expensive, but you can probably get a "homeowner" type container for a plot your size. Be sure that any insecticide you use is cleared for greens, especially if you intend to sell to a grocery store.
You might have a weed problem, again, more in the collards than the turnips. When the turnips start growing, they will outgrow most of the weed pests. Collards are much slower germinating and much slower growing. My daddy always said it took three days to get up a stand of turnips, and three weeks to get up a stand of collards. Don't plant more than you can fertilize and keep the weeds out of. I'll repeat that. DON'T PLANT MORE COLLARDS THAN YOU CAN AFFORD TO FERTILIZE, OR MORE THAN YOU CAN KEEP WEEDED BY HAND.
Most gardeners around here think turnips and collards are easy crops to grow, and that is true if you just have one fifty foot row of each, but when you start trying to do it on a larger scale, they become a very expensive and very labor intensive crop. They also produce a large amount of food on a small plot, and can be a real money-maker. I once kept up with a crop of early turnips I got planted during August. I sold over $5000 of turnips from a one and one-half acre patch.
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Ok Guys. I have wonderful news. There has been someone that has offered to donate their time and tractor to till my small Truck Patch Garden with a tiller.
A Huge Thanks to:
Heather and Gary
They are coming on Monday Sept. 5, 2005 Labor Day
They are taking some of their vacation to help me help others.
May God Bless Them and their Family's
I will post pictures as they plow the "Truck Patch Garden"
Again Thank you Heather & Gary for your help.
Jim
A Huge Thanks to:
Heather and Gary
They are coming on Monday Sept. 5, 2005 Labor Day
They are taking some of their vacation to help me help others.
May God Bless Them and their Family's
I will post pictures as they plow the "Truck Patch Garden"
Again Thank you Heather & Gary for your help.
Jim
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Many of you fine people have asked what you could do to help. I have come up with this for now.
I will probably need some more Seed, Fertilizer and chemical/poison's to control the beetles and such. If anyone would like to donate some of these things it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for all of your help, prayers and support.
Sincerely,
Jim Bonham & Family
And From all the people that this will help. Thank you!!
I will probably need some more Seed, Fertilizer and chemical/poison's to control the beetles and such. If anyone would like to donate some of these things it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for all of your help, prayers and support.
Sincerely,
Jim Bonham & Family
And From all the people that this will help. Thank you!!
