First time home buyer Questions

   / First time home buyer Questions #11  
Jason,

Can you afford to put 20% down on your new home, and still have enough money for a rainy day? There are several rules of thumb, but 3-6 months of your current income is what many financial advisors say you should have in some type of savings. If the answer is yes, don't consider any creative games, just use the standard practice.

If your answer is no, then it is better to finance a little more money than to deplete your savings. The reason is that if you lose your job, then your savings will allow to to keep your home while you find a new income source. So where does the creativity come into play? It's the ways to avoid PMI. PMI is some evil bankers concept to charge people, who can least afford it, insurance if they own less than a 20% stake in their home. Typically, these are called 80/10/10 or 80/15/5 plans. You take out a standard 30yr mortgage for 80% of home value, a 15yr second mortgage for 10% of your home's value, and only put down 10%. The second mortgage is usually 2pts higher in interest. With an 80/10/10, your payments are lower than if you would have taken a 90% 30 yr mortgage and paid PMI, and you build-up equity quicker. When we moved up to MD, we had to go with an 80/10/10 like arrangement due to the high home prices, so I'm speaking from personal experience. There are also similar scenarios that can be played with jumbo vs conventional loans.
 
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Cambridge, New York...How cool...I learn something new everyday here on TBN!!!!!!!! Thanks for your advice too /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
   / First time home buyer Questions #13  
Jason,

Look around and get some other advice. I agree with all of the posts above. Just starting out and getting a loan with no money tells me something is hidden. I am not sure of your intentions if you are just buying land to build on later or are you buying land with a house already on it? Buying bare land can be tough especially if you are a first time buyer. I don't know why but financial institutions don't like bare land deals. Maybe it is because it is hard to put a value on bare land. One of the other post said to move your trailer house on this new land and that is a good option if not too expensive to move.

One other thing to look at is Contract of Deed. If you know of a farmer that has the 15 acres of partial wooded land or whatever your looking for you may be able to get him to contract it for a while. This way you can start making payments on the purchase and building your credit and also having some value on your land for whenever the contract comes due. This also gives you time to make plans for the house you want and then at that time you can finance the whole thing in one package and have value built up in it. Just something to think about.

Interest rates are at their best right now so now is a good time to do something if your gonna.

I also like talking to people that you know in the field. You have a much better chance of not being taken advantage of.

just my 2 cents

murph
 
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I am pretty sure it was American Express Financial services.....He was an independant for years and decided to get tied in with this bigger company...I think he advises alot of the local teaching community and he seems to have a good reputation and offered a money back guarantee if we weren't satisified with his financial ideas. I haven't paid a dime to him yet....Thats why i needed some opinions form people who had been there and done that. All they claim to do is take your info on debts, income, near future plans..(buying a home) etc and tell you the best way to go about it....He said that we could choose to buy things like insurance polocies etc through him but it wasn't a requirment.....Basically he said we can pay for his financial plan and run if we want...Or if we weren't happy we could get out money back...( that might be like pulling teeth)...LOL I realize he might just be blowing smoke But I figured he can't be too bad and be in this small town...Cause he wouldn't be in business. We have been planning to put money down and try to pay off as soon as possible and sell the property we are on now. But aftert alking to him he confused me a bit...... /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
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Yeah we have quite a bit to put down on a home purchase and plan to sell what I own now too...So yeah the funds aren't a problem... I had talked to alocal banker about those ways of financing and avoiding the PMI .....I just hope our first time buying will be a good experience and not a big pain in the arse.....LOL /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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Thanks Murph! We thought about buying bare land and moving a mobile home or something on it.......But I have lived in a mobile home for 10 years now and am ready to move on.....LOL Plus my mobile home is worth more selling it on the property its on now as a package deal. I live next to my Granparents and a great Aunt and help take care of them they are all in there 80's so thats how I justified buying the new Kubota /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif there is about 4 acres total total to take care of between all 3 properties.
 
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My grandpa was telling me the other day that back in the day....He financed many properties over a lunch meeting with the local bigshot banker /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif If he liked you and you bought him lunch alot of deals were done with a handshake and a promise /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
   / First time home buyer Questions #18  
<font color="blue">there were ways to avoid using your savings to purchase a home.....Like using Equity in property you already have???? </font>

Yep. The equity in your exisiting home can be used. Like this:

Say you have a house that you just paid off and it is worth $35,000. Now, lets say you want to move up in the world and go to a $70,000 home. You have no money in your savings account and the bank wants 20% down or you have to buy mortgage insurance. So you have to come up with $14,000. Look into a "blanket mortgage" which puts both houses under one mortgage. The value of both properties is added together, for a total of $105,000. You are only borrowing $35,000 against the value of the $105,000. You still have $35,000 in equity, which is way over the 20% mark where you are required to buy mortgage insurance. You have to sign an agreement that you will give the bank at least $14,000 at the time of closing on the sale of your first house to maintain the 20% equity in the new $70,000 house to avoid paying mortgage insurance. Of course, you being the frugal type, will give them the entire $35,000 from the sale of your first house and then you will only have a $35,000 balance on your new home.

Sounds wrong, doesn't it? It sounded weird to me too, so much so, that I couldn't understand it. I had to trust my wife and the bank(no jokes please). Like one of those math jokes... (You're still looking for that other $35,000, aren't you?). Just ask your bank if they can do this and explain it to you better than me. There will be some fees that you might have to cover, but they might be able to incorporate the fees into the mortgage, by taking out a small home equity loan big enough to cover the fees. It might cost you a little more than if you had the 20% in your savings, but you didn't have it(the cost of doing business). Remember, I am just a tractor fan. I am not a financial advisor. Everything I just told you might be completely incorrect. Check with your local lending institution for advice. Good luck in your house hunting. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
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Hmmmm...Looks like an option though my bank would probably know more about all that. Very interesting though. Maybe this is what he was referring to....Ahhhh I just love lending institutions!!! NOT! /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif That and insurance two necessary evils. Sometimes I feel they really have us by the short and curlys......But I am proud to be in the USA! Thats for sure. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
   / First time home buyer Questions #20  
You could always buy the propery for a higher price and have the seller pay you for clean up and repairs. Write the repairs up for enough to cover the down payment and closing. It's done all the time, look at the real estate ads and see how many advertize carpet and paint allowances and such. You can write the contract up to reflect that. You have to trust them to write you a good check at closing, though. If they stiff you you have recourse through the contract but that can be a PITA.
 

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