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what would be the best 50-90 hp, cab/ac, mfd, loader, shuttle, tractor general maintenance, no heavy fieldwork, mostly blade and bush hog, $30-40,000 never owned a jd, asking for a friend prefer jd or kubota
 
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   / First tractor #2  
Ford / Chevy / Ram

Hotdogs with ketchup/ ketchup on hotdogs is heresy

Ginger/ Mary Anne

Tastes great/ Less filling
 
   / First tractor #3  
1. Blade size & intended usage?
2. Brush hog size, acreage and frequency?
3. Commercial or residential?
4. Quick-attach blade on loader, or on tractor?
5. Dealers in your area?
6. DIY or dealer-serviced?

These are just a few of the several questions that will narrow things down, but even then, there's no "best" tractor. JD and Kubota fetch top price and rank high for good reasons, but they're not always the best choice for everyone, particularly when considering available cash or financing.

Ginger/ Mary Anne
I think this one is easier. Does anyone ever actually pick Ginger over Mary Anne?
 
   / First tractor #4  
what would be the best 50-90 hp, cab/ac, mfd, loader, shuttle, tractor general maintenance, no heavy fieldwork, mostly blade and bush hog, $30-40,000 never owned a jd, asking for a friend prefer jd or kubota

For Deere or Kubota $40,000 is insufficient budget for a NEW tractor with your specifications, above.

$55,000 to $60,000 is realistic for Deere or Kubota 60 horsepower, cab/ac, mfd, loader, shuttle, tractor in most states.

Once diesel engine generates or exceeds 75-horsepower you have to deal with Diesel Exhaust Fluid. (DEF or blue fluid) (Any and all diesel engines)



The value tractor brand this year is TYM from South Korea.

A new 67-horsepower TYM Model T654 with your specifications might price out at $45,000.

TYM also produces the private label tractors sold by Rural King.

TYM WEB SITE:
https://tym.world/en-us/products/tractors/compact-utility/series-4/


TYM dealers in Missouri:


TYM T654 CAB TRACTOR​

TYM T654 tractor photo
2019 -
Utility tractor
Weight ~INCLUDING CAB~5555 lbs
2519 kg
Engine Detail
Deutz TCD2.9L4
turbocharged diesel
4-cylinder
liquid-cooled
Displacement:177 ci
2.9 L
Bore/Stroke:3.622x4.331 inches
92 x 110 mm
Power (gross):67 hp
50.0 kW
 
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My TYM is 55HP a little on the lower end for your friend. Tractor and loader (no cab on mine) together just under 30k. Similarly outfitted JD and Kubota machines will be at or over budget for your friend when you add a cab.

Given the stated uses and no other context, your friend may be looking at a much smaller tractor or be willing to look beyond his/her preferred brands. How many acres? How much needs to be Bush hugged? How dense is the material being cut?

Almost every one of the 14+ tractor names in the US market makes a good tractor. Some don't play in the 50-90 HP range much.

There are also EPA concerns that get worse above 75 HP.
 
   / First tractor #6  
what would be the best 50-90 hp, cab/ac, mfd, loader, shuttle, tractor general maintenance, no heavy fieldwork, mostly blade and bush hog, $30-40,000 never owned a jd, asking for a friend prefer jd or kubota
That's a lot of hp for "no heavy fieldwork".

A rear blade needs weight, and a heavy tractor to work it, not necessarily 90 hp. Certainly don't need that much to brush hog, unless you're aiming for a large batwing type mower.

What implements does your friend have now, and is he replacing an existing tractor, or is this all going to be from scratch?

Welcome to TBN. Probably ought to have your friend join up and ask us all directly.
 
   / First tractor #7  
Also consider which tractor comfortable for you to use...seating,viewing,control,operations.
 
   / First tractor #8  
what would be the best 50-90 hp, cab/ac, mfd, loader, shuttle, tractor general maintenance, no heavy fieldwork, mostly blade and bush hog, $30-40,000 never owned a jd, asking for a friend prefer jd or kubota
I'd go Kubota MX series - like MX5400
 
   / First tractor #9  
TYM T574 or 5520CH, brand new cab tractors, 55HP, under $40K. I think this is your only choice, everything else will be much more money. TYM makes good tractors with Cummins diesel engines.
 
   / First tractor #11  
TYM T574 or 5520CH, brand new cab tractors, 55HP, under $40K. I think this is your only choice, everything else will be much more money. TYM makes good tractors with Cummins diesel engines.
I think you have to reread some info on TYM.

They do use the Kukje engine in some models. But use Yanmar and Deutz as well.
I still doubt that the Kukje is an identical clone of the Cummins engine.
Kukje "built engines to Cummin's specifications". That is from the press release when they stroke the deal many years ago.
 
   / First tractor #13  
Massey 1860M, but your friend will have to drop something off his wish list; new, brand, loader, cab, something has to give. Is that 40k the total budget or just the tractor? The fact your asking about 60-90hp, makes me think 8+ft bush hog; even well used, you better have atleast $2500 for that; more like $8k if new. Here is a barely used one (145 hours), cab, loader, power shuttle, only $44k. That's a bit over the budget, but for top tier brand, I don't know you will find a new 60+ hp, with loader, and 4wd, for $40k.
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   / First tractor #14  
Here is a very Low hour Kioti Rx6620 for $39,000, with cab, loader, 4wd, shuttle. I own a Kioti, and would buy one again, but apples to apples, I would take the MF 1860M over the Rx6620, similar spec, similar hours, but $5k more.
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   / First tractor #15  
I agree on the MF recommendation.. here is a 1760m.

They have the exhaust-gas recirculation and diesel oxidation catalyst emissions. Which means not regens, no emissions equipment or filters to worry about. Sweet tractors.

 
   / First tractor #16  
I see that the loss of HP on some tractors from standard to
hydro is a whopping loss of one whole horse power
I knew that auto trannys are being improved all the time.
A VW Jetta from standard to auto; loose a whole mile per
gallon of gas

willy
 
   / First tractor #17  
I see that the loss of HP on some tractors from standard to
hydro is a whopping loss of one whole horse power
I knew that auto trannys are being improved all the time.
A VW Jetta from standard to auto; loose a whole mile per
gallon of gas

willy
Good observation. I know the HP losses of various late-model auto trans's pretty well, but never really looked at the losses of hydro transmission tractors. But a hydro trans is simply a pump and a VS hydraulic motor, whereas auto trans is a complex mess of clutches and spinning gears. So, not a surprise if their losses are very different.
 
   / First tractor #18  
what would be the best 50-90 hp, cab/ac, mfd, loader, shuttle, tractor general maintenance, no heavy fieldwork, mostly blade and bush hog, $30-40,000 never owned a jd, asking for a friend prefer jd or kubota

Well, what does your friend think of these suggestions?
 
   / First tractor #19  
I knew that auto trannys are being improved all the time. A VW Jetta from standard to auto; loose a whole mile per gallon of gas

willy
Yes @Willy - if the Jetta has a DSG automatic manual transmission, the gas mileage is 1mpg different. If a true slush box - an option they still offer, then the difference is much higher.

They have changed auto-trannies to have more gears which improve their overall performance but there is still significant mpg loss.

HST trannys on tractors still have significant power loss on most brands. A couple hp...

Fluid drives take energy. Clutch/gear takes less...

The convenience of HST is worth the energy loss IMHO. But, know there is a loss and if the tractor being spec'd is right on the power cusp - one might choose to step up to the next size engine to overcome the HST loss.
 
   / First tractor #20  
I am very happy that I don't have standard tranny on tractor
its so easu tp just move your foot a few inches to go back
or forward. Just two petals no clutch to mess with and no
shifting. The manufactures have made it so easy to operate
a tractor now compared to the olden days.

willy
 

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