Fish Tailing

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#51  
> The trailers have to be inspected before a license can be issued.

I don't have a CDL, and the orange trailer I borrowed from my dad is neither inspected or licensed.

> Load Trail because they build an excellent trailer

That would be a really nice trailer. I'm sure the thief who stole the new trailer I had built in Nov 2014 would be tickled pink to see me pull up with another new one for him to take.
 
   / Fish Tailing #52  
Reading through the posts it seems you are in the market for another trailer to haul your tractor with FEL and mower. Here are some facts and issues I discovered on a recent trailer purchase.

New licensing rules in Texas require any trailer with a gross loaded weight greater than 4,500 lbs to have at least two wheel brakes. The trailers have to be inspected before a license can be issued.

So you have an L4400 that weighs 3400 lbs.
Front End Loader 1,000 lbs ??
Five foot shredder 500 lbs ??

So lets say your rig with everything attached and full of fuel is 5,000 lbs. Good so far?
So you need a trailer that is rated to haul 5,000 lbs minimum. My 18 foot bumper pull weighs 2,100 lbs, does not have brakes and is registered for 4,500 lbs. That leaves me with 2,400 lbs that I can haul legally and safely. It can handle my B7510 nicely.

My L3901 weighs 2,800 lbs. FEL add (just guessing) 1,200 lbs. Five foot shredder 500 lbs. So I am up to 5,000 lbs as well. (give or take a few pounds). When hauling the tractor is required to be chained at 4 locations (fuzzy on that). Loader has to be chained down (like flat on the trailer deck). Shredder has to be chained down flat on the deck. That whole rig flat on the deck takes up 99% of my 20 foot trailer deck.

So if you have to raise your FEL and your mower to balance the load on a less than 20 foot trailer then you can't possibly legally or safely haul your tractor as pictured in some of your posts.

Do you have a class III hitch attached to the frame of the truck? If not then are you pulling from the bumper alone. Most of the limitations I have read on bumpers limit you out at 5,000 lbs gross trailer weight and load on the trailer.

You are already experiencing fish tailing with a shorter trailer. I would venture a guess that the mower hanging out over the rear is a contributing factor as well.

I found on craigslist a 20 foot shop built trailer for sale. I paid $2200 for it. $480 to bring it up to DOT standards to be able to pass inspection. $350 for decking. $300 for heavy duty aluminum ramps. It took four months to get this trailer licensed after purchase. I had to have it inspected by law enforcement, then inspected for DOT compliance, sent photos off to DMV and applied for a vehicle identification number. It carries my tractor and shredder no problem. Four wheel brakes makes me feel like I can stop it in an emergency. No fishtailing. I have hauled 4 pallets of grass on it with no issues. I have it registered for 10,000 lbs gross. It weighs 2,300 lbs which gives me 7,700 lbs for cargo legally. The two 5,200 lb axles handles the weight great.

If I had it to do over again I would bite the bullet, go straight to Load Trail and buy a 20 foot (or longer) tilt bed trailer with 2 5,200 lb axles and not have to go through the process of registering a home made trailer. Tilt bed because handling ramps gets old and tiresome. Load Trail because they build an excellent trailer and have a great warranty for about the same as some of the other brands.

If you go with one of those run of the mill 18 foot trailers with two 3,500 lb axles I am thinking you will be in the same predicament as you are now.

You mention DOT. Is this a commercial trailer or is DOT required in Texas? Just curious. Thanks.
 
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#54  
Curious what kind of coupler lock was smashed off?

One of these:

Reese Universal Coupler Lock, Model# UTL100

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Notice in the reviews, other people comment how easy they are to break into.

I wished I had seen those reviews before purchasing the one I got.
 
   / Fish Tailing #55  
Seems the coupler locks are just about useless.

Thieves here will use the safety chains and drive off...

A buddy lived in a semi-commercial district and had to chain his trailer with padlocks to his cyclone fence pipe...

Another uses a wedge between the tandem axles so either letting air out or removing a wheel would be needed.

Sad comment about the times.
 
   / Fish Tailing #56  
One of these:

Reese Universal Coupler Lock, Model# UTL100

View attachment 440398

Notice in the reviews, other people comment how easy they are to break into.

I wished I had seen those reviews before purchasing the one I got.

Dude! Don't feel bad. Criminals are criminals and locks are only deterrents to stupid or lazy criminals. You can't prevent theft, only deter it. Heck, they could come up with a truck and use chains to support the tongue and off they go, no balls (pun intended) needed on a hitch. That thing looks like a good place to wrap a chain around even. Just take a 6" drop-hitch, turn it over and you have a mini-boom pole. Back it over the trailer tongue, wrap some chains around it and the boom pole, raise the foot and off you go.
 
   / Fish Tailing #57  
Seems the coupler locks are just about useless.

Thieves here will use the safety chains and drive off...

A buddy lived in a semi-commercial district and had to chain his trailer with padlocks to his cyclone fence pipe...

Another uses a wedge between the tandem axles so either letting air out or removing a wheel would be needed.

Sad comment about the times.

Didn't read your reply before I replied. Agree totally.

Many times I've moved a trailer around a yard with the safety chains when I didn't have a hitch.
 
   / Fish Tailing #58  
Yeah don't feel like it's your fault. Locked gate and coupler lock - those guys just wanted your trailer.

Like others I would suggest a sturdier and fully compliant setup if you intend much hauling at all. You don't want to be the guy the lawyers go after if something goes wrong out on the road.

Good luck!
 
   / Fish Tailing #59  
You mention DOT. Is this a commercial trailer or is DOT required in Texas? Just curious. Thanks.

I used DOT in the context of installing properly rated safety chains, break away brake activator, reflective tape and required lighting. This is not a commercial trailer, however all trailers have to have certain safety equipment. In fact I chose a 10,000 lb trailer because according to FMCA a towed vehicle of no more than 10,000 lbs gross is not considered commercial. So theoretically I could tow it across the 48 states without a CDL and/or permitting.

DOT licensing is required for Texas if your gross combined truck and trailer exceeds 26,000 lbs. CDL is then required. With my rig I am under the radar for all 48 states.
 
   / Fish Tailing #60  
> The trailers have to be inspected before a license can be issued.

I don't have a CDL, and the orange trailer I borrowed from my dad is neither inspected or licensed.

> Load Trail because they build an excellent trailer

That would be a really nice trailer. I'm sure the thief who stole the new trailer I had built in Nov 2014 would be tickled pink to see me pull up with another new one for him to take.

OMG. So you are saying that the borrowed trailer is not registered nor is there a license plate displayed. So it probably does not have brakes either. You are towing in the neighborhood of 5,000 lbs on a trailer that at most is rated for 3,000 lbs cargo with a truck that is grossly under rated. A stolen trailer will be the least of your troubles if you are towing and are involved in an accident.

I live in an out of the way place and could get by with a rig like yours. The speed limit is 30 mph on most of the roads except the one to town which is 60 mph. However the village idiots think they can pull out in front of you (violate your right of way) and only get up to 30 in a 60 mph zone. I have had to brake hard on several occasions to avoid a crash.

Please please stop concentrating on a stolen trailer and think about your life and the lives of others if the village idiot violates your right of way and someone loses their life in a resulting crash. Could you stop if a child dashes out in front of you? Just saying look at the big picture.

In Texas a CDL is not required unless the vehicle you are driving can haul in excess of 26,000 lbs or your combined (truck + trailer) is rated for greater than 26,000 lbs. So a truck rated for 9,900 lbs and a trailer rated for 15,680 lbs is just below the requirement for a CDL and to register with the Texas DOT. Never fear, the trailer inspecting and licensing is in full force. Getting a license for a home made or shop made (as opposed to a registered manufactured) trailer can be frustrating and time consuming.
 

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