Fleetguard Filters - extended drain intervals

[fieldserviceengineer]

I agree with Shimon on the change intervals. For warranty purposes you should always go by the engine oil change intervals. The only exceptions should be when using extended service filters. Fleetguards' line is called Venturi Combo. If you want to check these out use the followng e-mail address. In the search box at the upper right hand corner, type in VENTURI COMBO.
Cummins Filtration

The problem with that recommendation is that Venturi Combo filters are not made for every engine. Follow the engine manufacturer's recommendations on extended service intervals. Some have them, others do not go beyond their standard published intervals. Extended intervals are based on several parameters such as fuel consumption, % of idle time, engine load factor. Extending drain intervals on engines is not accomplished by the filter. Using highest quality oil has more effect on the internal engine condition from extended drain intervals. A filter like the Venturi Combo is an excellent compliment to a top quality oil. However, it cannot make poor quality oil into an acceptable fluid for engines. Engine company warranty cannot require the use of any specific brand of lube oil or filter. The Federal Trade Commission enforces restraint of trade laws against companies that make such statements. For a company to require you to use specific consumable products to keep your warranty from being voided must supply those consumables free of charge during the warranty period.

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[sw03]

The problem with that recommendation is that Venturi Combo filters are not made for every engine. Follow the engine manufacturer's recommendations on extended service intervals. Some have them, others do not go beyond their standard published intervals. Extended intervals are based on several parameters such as fuel consumption, % of idle time, engine load factor. Extending drain intervals on engines is not accomplished by the filter. Using highest quality oil has more effect on the internal engine condition from extended drain intervals. A filter like the Venturi Combo is an excellent compliment to a top quality oil. However, it cannot make poor quality oil into an acceptable fluid for engines. Engine company warranty cannot require the use of any specific brand of lube oil or filter. The Federal Trade Commission enforces restraint of trade laws against companies that make such statements. For a company to require you to use specific consumable products to keep your warranty from being voided must supply those consumables free of charge during the warranty period.

Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act - Read the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act here Part 1

Hate to saw the MWA is about 15 years old in the age-old argument..In fact I play that side too but..keep reading.

Then again a mfg has lots of free time, money, lawyers (aka MORE then the cutomer) etc to fight you on this little MWA...It is a two way street.

 

[sw03]

The LF3692 is shown as the filter for your needs per Fleetguard. What you may not be aware of is that the warranty on their filters only goes for as long as the OEM lists as the normal oil change interval. Should you experience a defect in manufacturing or materials that would mean 'warranty', it will be based on the JD published service interval and the Subaru published service interval. That filter product is made of cellulose media. Most engine lube oil filters do not stop much in the way of solid contaminants. Synthetic media lube oil filters while rated to trap very small particles and a high number of them, in actuality trap very few particles. However, synthetic media has lower cold flow resistance meaning more oil is filtered at cold start up than with a cellulose filter. The extended oil drain you seek will have much more to do with the quality and type of oil you use. May I suggest that when looking at used oil analysis to determine oil change life, be sure to get an analysis that will give the used oil TBN (total base number). TBN level will do more to show the condition of the additive package in general. If the TBN number should show that it is depleted, this means the Total Acid Level (TAN) is high. High TAN is an indicator of oil that is now attacking your engine parts through corrosion and etching. Test your new oil to determine the baseline qualities of that oil, then test it as a used oil to see the effects on TBN values.

Right but you are missing some important parts of UOA. I know these TBN, TAN, Novack, OXD (to name a very few) have been brought up years ago and these members have been banned. Fighting oil on there is a worthless battle.

PLus UOA were started to NOT view oil life. That is a plus. Most people will not pay to have a UOA and then thorw in the "understanding it"..Been there done that years ago.

Ps, the 10,000 miles you can do on many DINO oils and a group 4 or 5 is not needed. Even a walfart filter or wiz can do that. Seen it many times.

 

[mcconoughey]

"synthetic media may trap more stuff more efficiently but that just means it will clog up quicker" Synthetic media filters can last longer without clogging while still trapping more contaminate. SAE.ORG offers many technical papers over many years on oil and air filter performance. In synthetic media more of the filter area can be devoted to holes, while less is consumed by the filter fibers. Synthetic media are not cure-all for filtering needs, but they can offer a superior, though costly, improvement.

 

[Toyboy]

I've been using Mobil 1 since the mid 80's, and I'll change filters (varius brands) every 3.5k and do a complete dump at around 11k. Never had a problem. You guys get waaayyy to deep into some of this stuff

 

[sw03]

"synthetic media may trap more stuff more efficiently but that just means it will clog up quicker" Synthetic media filters can last longer without clogging while still trapping more contaminate. SAE.ORG offers many technical papers over many years on oil and air filter performance. In synthetic media more of the filter area can be devoted to holes, while less is consumed by the filter fibers. Synthetic media are not cure-all for filtering needs, but they can offer a superior, though costly, improvement.

Too bad Amsoil STOPPED making oil filter (the best full flow filter on the market based on ratings) due to....clogging issues...

Sure they, synthetic media ia great but try and tie that into engine longevity...you can't. So is it really needed? No clue yet...And yea I read SAE paper daily..