flipped B2910

[pgilhool]

Any recommendations. I flipped the tractor (bucket on front & RFM on back)on a steep hill. rolled it twice. (ROPS down). I turned if off while it was choking. It stayed on the right side approx 1/2 hr. Neighbor's small John Deere uprighted the machine.
Small amt of hydrualic fluid dripped from the unknown areas from the front hydraulics and less then an ounce of oil from air intake.
I have not started it since. Can I? What kind of things should I be looking for.

 

[alvanko]

Hope your OK !
Let it sit for a few hours for the fluids to drain back down. Pull the glow plugs before cranking or you could damage the rods from being hydraulic/oil locked in the top of the cylinder. Make sure fluid levels are full. Check the battery too (acid). Crank it to push any oil out of the top of the cylinders. Replace glow plugs and start it up.

 

[pgilhool]

Thanks for your help. Now I have to figure out how to change the plugs.

 

[kmdigital]

You don't change the plugs. Just remove them and then reinstall them after cranking it over. But you can also try to rotate the engine by hand to see if turns over without any problem. Could be hard to do though on a diesel. If it is a gear tractor, jack up one rear wheel, put it in high gear and sloooowwwllllyyy turn over the engine several times using the rear wheel to make sure everything is ok. Most likely you didn't get enough oil above the pistons to hurt anything.

 

[daTeacha]

Glad the only thing you hurt was your pride. There has been a lot of traffic here lately about sidehills. Can you post a picture or somehow measure the angle of the hill? I don't like seeing post titles about rolling the tractor over and your experience might help someone else from accomplishing the same thing.

Did you say your ROPS was down?? Seatbelt on or off? Did you ride it out or bail out? I presume if the ROPS was down and it rolled twice you weren't in it?

 

[Henro]

But you can also try to rotate the engine by hand to see if turns over without any problem. Could be hard to do though on a diesel.

Some time ago I read here at TBN that turning a diesel over by hand is risky, since the diesel might start, since there is no ignition, and it fires by compression.

Something to keep in mind. Don't know how probably a start would be...this is one of those things I probably would not think of myself, so when I read it I burned it into my memory banks...and thought I might pass along here...

 

[Bob53]

I'd check tire pressures too, one of the tires could be a little low which would make it more likely to tip over on a slope.

 

[frank_f15]

Being that it rolled over twice, with FEL and RFM on, was kind of wondering what other damage happened? like twisted FEL arms, banged up mower, 3 pt out of wack etc! can you post some pics?

 

[kmdigital]

Henro,
A diesel won't start when it is cranked over if there isn't any fuel going to the injectors. Either pull the main fuel cutoff, or turn the key off if it uses an electric solenoid, and there aren't any fears of it starting.

 

[whitetiger]

A diesel can fire with oil on top of the piston. It most likly would not while turning by hand, but IS possible. Take out the glow plugs first.

 

[ovrszd]

I extreme 4 wheel so have had plenty of experiences of rollovers. This tractor only laid on it's side for 30 minutes, small chance of oil on top of the piston there. I'd look for structural damage such as broken gearboxes, fan away from the radiator, battery still in place, things like that, then crank it up. And don't do that manuever again!!!

 

[pgilhool]

Thanks guys for all your help. It makes me sick all the mistakes I could do in one sitting. I was in a hurry, overconfident, folded ROPS, pulling a heavy limb with a towrope attached to the top link of the Woods 72" RFM in the raised position (the major cause of the problem). I was looking backward in medium gear climbing the side of a hill. I did not have a seatbelt on because I just started out. I dragged the limb no more than 50 feet, saw the grade was getting steeper so I compensated. Down that is.. And that is all it needed. It happened so fast. I have had close calls in the past before, but they were in slow motion. I had time to compensate. Not this time. I just got off the tractor as it rolled behind me. Thank God I did not have the seatbelt on.
Now I do not trust myself to fix the damages. So this morning I called the dealer to pick it up and give it a check up and to start it up. I'll let you know the bill. Thanks for all your help.

 

[ovrszd]

Thanks guys for all your help. It makes me sick all the mistakes I could do in one sitting. I was in a hurry, overconfident, folded ROPS, pulling a heavy limb with a towrope attached to the top link of the Woods 72" RFM in the raised position (the major cause of the problem). I was looking backward in medium gear climbing the side of a hill. I did not have a seatbelt on because I just started out. I dragged the limb no more than 50 feet, saw the grade was getting steeper so I compensated. Down that is.. And that is all it needed. It happened so fast. I have had close calls in the past before, but they were in slow motion. I had time to compensate. Not this time. I just got off the tractor as it rolled behind me. Thank God I did not have the seatbelt on.
Now I do not trust myself to fix the damages. So this morning I called the dealer to pick it up and give it a check up and to start it up. I'll let you know the bill. Thanks for all your help.

Anyone who uses their tractor will make mistakes like this. All of us do things that are not safe. I use tow ropes with my Jeeps a lot too. The rope probably got you in the most trouble, it had stretched and continued pulling the tractor over, even after you had stopped forward movement. I once put my Jeep on it's side the same way while trying to pull another Jeeper. I knew I was in trouble and stopped but the rope kept right on pulling and flopped me over. Hope the tractor just has appearance damage and nothing more serious. Keep us posted.

 

[ultrarunner]

I don't think there is any danger of starting a cold diesel by slowly turning the motor over by hand.

My Grandfather's first diesel tractor only had crank starting. Speaking from experience... it takes a warm engine and a strong arm and about 8 to 10 fast revolutions for it to fire.

In the winter he would unscrew a cap from the cylinder head and place some type of burning wick in the hole and replace the cap before cranking.

I was 10 before I was able to start it and only when the engine was already warm.