Fluids, flushing and other prep help

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kbone1

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St.Augustine, Florida
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JM 354
OK, I know by all of the posts that I have read on this and other forums that there are varying opinions on what type of oils to use for Jinma tractors. I am in the process of assembling a JM 354 crate tractor. I have read that it is recommended to flush out the whole system (Hydro,Eng,Trans). Could somebody explain "flush" for me, do they mean to drain a quart or two down then add that amount of Kero or Diesel, run system and drain completely then replace with new oils, or, drain the whole system and add only Kero or Diesel, run, drain the system and replace. Should I run it at all with just fuel in the system to clean it?, that sounds too abrasive. How would Kero or diesel affect the seals and gaskets? What type of Antifreeze should I use? and my final question, to beat a dead horse, What type of oils and weight should I use. I know this may start a hailstorm of opinions, but Calibrators (me) have a hard time dealing with vague or broad range info. Thank you in advance
 
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Drain the gear oil from the transmission and front differential and axle. Refill with Kerosene and run it around for a bit exercising all the gears and giving the kero a chance to loosen up any material, then drain it out. Mine didn't look like kero when I drained it and I got quite a bit of fine metal out. I refilled the gearbox and front axel with 80W90 GL4 suitable for yellow/non ferous metals(had to look for quite a while to find one with a spec sheet or lable that actually said this). I also removed the transmission top covers to inspect and sucked out quite a bit more kero with a large syringe from cavities that wouldn't drain.

I did flush out the hydraulic resovoir on my 284 but I chose not to run kero through the hydraulic system. I removed the suction strainer assembly and used a large syringe with a hose attached to force kerosene into the cast sections of the bottom of the resovoir to move the trapped oil/sludge and small metal particles that had settled there towards the drain. I then blew as much of the kero out with compressed air as possible. I refilled the system with AW32 hydraulic oil, ran it for 10 hours and drained and refilled the system with fresh AW32. I found a hole in the OEM brass screen during the first inspection so I also replaced the brass strainer assembly with a 1 piece stainless mesh hydraulic suction strainer from northern hydraulics that had about the same ammount of surface area and was rated for up to 25GPM.

I drained the engine oil and replaced the oil filter. I refilled it with Shell Rotella T 15W40. The factory book talks about a diesel oil flush of the oilpan at a particular interval(forget how many hundreds of hours) to remove material that has settled there. My read on this is just pouring it through the oil fil and letting it run out the drain, no engine run. I will probably do this at the 150 hour oilchange.

I have heard some good stories about the crap oils that these machines are shipped with. Mine arived with a pretty reasonable looking oil of about 30WT. This same fluid was in all 3 systems and I have been using it and the kerosene I flushed with to light burn piles. It lights easilly and burns like no motor oil I have ever seen:)

My cooling system had what looked like a less than 50/50 mix of green antifreeze. The cooling system on my tractor appears to be fairly standard brass and steel construction. I have used Havoline antifreeze(orange) for years on similar systems so I went with that.
 
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I can only tell you what I do, I use Diesel fuel to flush with, first I drain the hydraulic lift box then fill it with Diesel and drain it, then fill it again and let that run thru the system then drain it out, take the return line off the lifter box and fill the lifter box with new hydraulic fluid and run that with the return line off until I get clean hydraulic oil returning. Hook the return back up and top off.
The trans I do next, I drain it, fill to mark with Diesel, I drive the tractor about 100 feet and back, then drain the diesel out, let it drain real well. refill with 80/90 gear oil. The front axle should have been off the machine and probably empty or close. when its on the tractor I fill with diesel drive 100 feet and back and drain all 3 drain plugs, refill with 80/90 gear oil.
The engine DO NOT run the engine with diesel in the oil pan at all, could cause the engine to run away. I drain the oil from the engine, unscrew the filter and dump the oil from the filter, then put the filter back on the engine. Fill engine to dip stick full mark with diesel. Now this is important" pull the engine stop cable out, like to kill the engine, clamp a pair of vice grips on the cable so it can not go back in(on the metal shaft behind the knob).Now turn the compression release lever to the right all the way, hold it there, crank engine in 5 second bursts until you see the oil preasure guage rise up just a little. Drain the diesel out of the engine and remove the filter. Let it drain out real well. I take a small magnet pick up tool and put it in the oil drain hole to pick up any metal that might have washed to the sides of the hole and usually I get a bunch out of them.
Fill the engine to full mark with 15/40 diesel oil, like Rotella or other brands and fill oil filter about 3/4 and put the NEW filter on.
Do the same thing, clamp the stop, hold the compression release over and crank the engine in 5 second bursts until you see the oil preasure guage rise, Now its safe to start the engine. recheck oil level after running.
The injector pump, on the new 354's they have a dip stick at the back of the pump, drain is on the bottom sort of more towards the engine block, its a 10mm bolt head, don't lose the copper washer on the plug bolt. drain the pump, I flush it by putting the plug back in just a few turns add about 4 oz of 30 wt motor oil and drain it again, pulls the crap out of the pump. put plug back in and tighten fill to top mark (the mark is light to see) right at the bottom of the white plastic part. takes about 7 oz to 8 oz of oil. I use 30 wt detergent motor oil.
let it sit 1 hour and recheck, it fills at the vent on the back top, looks like a mushroom, remove it for filling.
Now to save you problems later get liquid electric tape, looks like black paint, hardware stores sell it. Paint the wire connectors at the oil sending unit(by oil filter) the clutch start switch wires and the stop light connector on the underside and the ones up by the tail lites and other exposed ones, for a few buck will save you a headach down the road.
I replace the wire clamps on the power steering cylinder boot with regular screw type hose clamps, the wire ones pop off all the time.
grease every fitting you can find, the ones on the front and back hubs get 20 pumps each then every 50 hours of use give them 5 pumps, the fronts are on the outside of the wheels the backs are inside, don't over look the ones on the boxes at each end of the 4x4 drive shaft. Also there is a drain plug for the trans at the trans end of the 4x4 shaft, left side of the tractor, this needs drained also when you do the trans.
I use precharged anti freeze
if you have other questions PM me I own 3 354's
Have fun get dirty
Jim
 

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