Followup on iMatch on X595
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RalphVa
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You must have a Cat 0 top link. I bought one of these this morning from TSC to use in connecting another tool. Turns out it'll be too short because the tool is further back. Will replace it with a Cat 1 top link tomorrow.
Couldn't you put some Cat 0-> Cat 1 bushings on both the tractor and the ballast box and use a Cat 1 top link? The Cat 0 top link maxes out at 18". The Cat 1 ones start at 19" and go out to about 30". Sounds like a Cat 1 link screwed down to 19" would do.
Ralph
Couldn't you put some Cat 0-> Cat 1 bushings on both the tractor and the ballast box and use a Cat 1 top link? The Cat 0 top link maxes out at 18". The Cat 1 ones start at 19" and go out to about 30". Sounds like a Cat 1 link screwed down to 19" would do.
Ralph
glagen-Yes the center draft is as long as it gets-which isn't too long.
RalphVa-I will check into a longer draft arm. The specs show (couldn't load the picture) that the distance between lower arm pin and upper draft pin as 15-18 inches even though it has Cat1 pins
THREE-POINT HITCH (LIMITED CATEGORY 1)
Lower arm lift specifications (Category 1 hitch):
• Maximum low point above ground = 8.5-in. (216 mm)
• Minimum high point above ground = 21.5-in. (546
mm)
• Minimum lift range = 13-in. (330 mm)
• Lift capacity 12-in. behind hitch balls = 450 lb. (204
kg)
A - Ball Socket I.D. 0.87-in. (22 mm)
B - Pin Hole I.D. 0.75-in. (19 mm)
RalphVa-I will check into a longer draft arm. The specs show (couldn't load the picture) that the distance between lower arm pin and upper draft pin as 15-18 inches even though it has Cat1 pins
THREE-POINT HITCH (LIMITED CATEGORY 1)
Lower arm lift specifications (Category 1 hitch):
• Maximum low point above ground = 8.5-in. (216 mm)
• Minimum high point above ground = 21.5-in. (546
mm)
• Minimum lift range = 13-in. (330 mm)
• Lift capacity 12-in. behind hitch balls = 450 lb. (204
kg)
A - Ball Socket I.D. 0.87-in. (22 mm)
B - Pin Hole I.D. 0.75-in. (19 mm)
RalphVa
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- JD 2025R, previously Gravely 5650 & JD 4010 & JD 1025R
You've Cat 1 pins. Bottom pins are 7/8". Top pin is 3/4".
They put a really short top link on there. The one I have is 19-29". Most all of TSC's (at least here) are 18-30". I just bought another one to go on an old 2" tool ripper from a JD M to allow me to raise it. You won't need any bushings anyway, just longer top link.
That isn't much lift. The lift on my JD 4010 is good for 860 # at the draft arm ends and lifts between 3" and 24". You might have trouble with most bush hogs. Think you'd have to get one of the cheaper, very light weight ones. The LX4 on my JD is 400 # BEFORE addition of the safety chains. Of course, you wouldn't have to lift the whole hog except to transport it down the road. Don't think you should do that with yours.
Watch geometry on those 3 points. Won't matter on something like the ballast box, but it does on things that stick out a ways. If the top link is the least bit longer than the draft arms, the lift geometry will cause the top link to tilt things connected there BACK, like trying to drive a bush hog tail wheel into the ground. This was what I ran into on my LX4. They didn't have the lift pins and bracket in the right holes. I ended up lowering the pins. This tilted the top link pin forward, actually quite a bit. It lifts fine now.
Think my dealer/delivery guy were in kahoots to get me to buy an iMatch. It would have solved the lift problem by shortening the top link. I went with a chain for the top link for the bush hog. You wouldn't want a chain with the ballast box. It could rock back and blast you in the butt sitting on the seat.
Ralph
They put a really short top link on there. The one I have is 19-29". Most all of TSC's (at least here) are 18-30". I just bought another one to go on an old 2" tool ripper from a JD M to allow me to raise it. You won't need any bushings anyway, just longer top link.
That isn't much lift. The lift on my JD 4010 is good for 860 # at the draft arm ends and lifts between 3" and 24". You might have trouble with most bush hogs. Think you'd have to get one of the cheaper, very light weight ones. The LX4 on my JD is 400 # BEFORE addition of the safety chains. Of course, you wouldn't have to lift the whole hog except to transport it down the road. Don't think you should do that with yours.
Watch geometry on those 3 points. Won't matter on something like the ballast box, but it does on things that stick out a ways. If the top link is the least bit longer than the draft arms, the lift geometry will cause the top link to tilt things connected there BACK, like trying to drive a bush hog tail wheel into the ground. This was what I ran into on my LX4. They didn't have the lift pins and bracket in the right holes. I ended up lowering the pins. This tilted the top link pin forward, actually quite a bit. It lifts fine now.
Think my dealer/delivery guy were in kahoots to get me to buy an iMatch. It would have solved the lift problem by shortening the top link. I went with a chain for the top link for the bush hog. You wouldn't want a chain with the ballast box. It could rock back and blast you in the butt sitting on the seat.
Ralph