Onederdog
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Given that the PTO hp is the same for the 4530/4110 what reasons would someone choice one over the other? And what is the MSRP difference.
Thanks,
Bruce
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Bruce
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BobG_in_VA
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I'm not a dealer, I don't even play one on TV, but I am a user...Look at the specs and you should see exactly why the 4350 is much more tractor. Lower reving engine, with more cubic inches (can't ever have too many CIs). Lower Compression ratio on the 4530, Hydraulic output is better on the 4530, lift capacity is over 1000lbs more for the 4530. RPMs at PTO speed (540) is over 400 less for the 4530. Soooo, for my hard earned money, do I need to say which way I'd lean??? Just puttin' you on, but there really isn't much of a discussion that needs to be made, except that the price may be the deciding factor. Good luck on your decision BobG in VA
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Onederdog
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Thanks for reply Bob.
I haven't looked at the engine specs much. I did notice that the 4530 weights almost a ton more, and has a higher pto lift capacity.
What about the 12/12 partial syncho tranny on the 4110 vs. 8/8 full on the 4530? I think I've also read a post stating that the 4110 is actually made for Mahindra by another company, and not their own engineering.
Anyone know what the MSRP difference is (Dave).
Thanks,
Bruce (rookie buyer)
I haven't looked at the engine specs much. I did notice that the 4530 weights almost a ton more, and has a higher pto lift capacity.
What about the 12/12 partial syncho tranny on the 4110 vs. 8/8 full on the 4530? I think I've also read a post stating that the 4110 is actually made for Mahindra by another company, and not their own engineering.
Anyone know what the MSRP difference is (Dave).
Thanks,
Bruce (rookie buyer)
jwcinpk
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You're right TYM makes the 4110 for Mahindra. Heck of a tractor, everybody that has them likes them. Kind of look like a siamese cat though. The 4530 is a true Mahindra made in India for sale in the US. Both are good tractors. Bob and I have the 6000 4x4 which is more like the 4530. True Mahindra. Best I recall there is close to a $2000 difference in price. Or atleast when I was shopping there was. It was the 4500 then though so I don't know how much the platform changed the price. Either tractor is a good choice. I'd ask myself (and tell us) more about what you plan to use the tractor for. The 4530 is more of a Ag type no frills tractor. Much heavier, lifts more, heck it's just bigger all around. It does suffer a little in the tranny deptartment, but unless you need to absolutely creep you'll never notice the difference. My 6000 is plenty low enough to till and I would imagine you would want to go as slow then as ever. So let us know more about what you plan to use the tractor for and we'll be more than glad to help you spend your money. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
DavesTractor
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I'm not at my office, so I am not sure on the MSRP difference. These tractors are completely different. The 4110 is a large compact and the 4530 is a full size utility. Manueverablility should be considered and also will you be hauling this behind a pickup?
The difference in specs are obvious. The only thing really close is HP. If you are considering the 4530, you might as well look at the 5500 4wd also. It has a nice balance of power to weight and a little better brakes, plus a larger front axle. Then if you like the 5500 4wd, you might take a spin on the 7520 4wd....oops, can't help myself /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
The difference in specs are obvious. The only thing really close is HP. If you are considering the 4530, you might as well look at the 5500 4wd also. It has a nice balance of power to weight and a little better brakes, plus a larger front axle. Then if you like the 5500 4wd, you might take a spin on the 7520 4wd....oops, can't help myself /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Joel: I thought about a tiller for my 6000 2WD but thought that 1st gear is too fast - 1.90 mph at 2100 rpm. pto 540 is at around 2060 rpm. What is ground speed of the 4x4 in 1st gear?
Also what width disc mower are you pulling? I would be cutting fescue (K31) which is quite heavy in places.
Tnx,
Fred
Also what width disc mower are you pulling? I would be cutting fescue (K31) which is quite heavy in places.
Tnx,
Fred
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I'll refer the question about ground speed to Dave or BobG. I have no idea where my literature on the tractor is.
I'm running a Fort First Choice 8ft cut 6 disc mower. It's really a little much for the 6000. Well I say that because I like to go. If speed isn't a concern it has no problems with it.
My tiller is a 90" First Choice. I've tilled up half the places in the county with it. I could stand it if the tractor was a little slower with it.
I'm running a Fort First Choice 8ft cut 6 disc mower. It's really a little much for the 6000. Well I say that because I like to go. If speed isn't a concern it has no problems with it.
My tiller is a 90" First Choice. I've tilled up half the places in the county with it. I could stand it if the tractor was a little slower with it.
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Onederdog
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Thanks again for the howling good replies!!!
This isn't the Readers Digest version.
Here's the scoop on the usage. My home lot is 1 1/2 acres. I'm currently trying to prep my side pasture (1/4 acre-70' wide) for laying sod to use as a dog agility training area. I would like a tractor that I can also use to mow this area once it's planted. So, that brings up another question. Should the tractor have turf tires to avoid ripping up the agility area? The 4110 with a possible HST tranny and mid-mount pto for mowing might work. Or, is putting on and removing a mid-mount mower on a weekly basis as big a pain as scratching fleas and ticks. Maybe a rear pto mower is the way to go. Remember, the area is only 70 ft. wide, and I'm trying to avoid having to buy a small riding mower. So far the prep work is (was) being done with my Polaris 500cc ATV with a “quadravator”, harrows mat etc.. Just about burned it up (the ATV that is) which brought up the whole need (want) for a tractor to begin with. Side note: I see the 4110 has a 540/1000 pto, the 4530 just 540. So, what implements do you need the 1000 speed for? Show of hands please.
There is another 1/2 acre out back, which my wife uses for training stock dogs and pasturing a small flock of sheep. This fall I plan to prepare this area for planting pasture and will likely have someone come in and hydro-seed it.
Then there is the “River Bottoms Farm” which is 11 1/2 acres and a few miles away. We've cleared about 7 acres of those (@#*#@%) lovely Russian Olive trees so far, using our backhoe. This brings up yet another question. We have a nice JCB 214 4wd backhoe so I really don't have a need for an FEL on the new tractor, except maybe to enhance possible resale value and a small amount of misc. usage. My local dealer does not even like to order in a tractor without a FEL. Usage at the bottoms will probably include ongoing discing, plowing… some sort of Russian Olive removal plan, along with grooming our stockdog trail arena. Those removed Russian Olive trees now sit in two separate house sized piles waiting for a chipper (no burning allowed, dog-gone EPA).
My current utility trailer has two 3500 pound axles, so the 4530 will put me slightly overweight for hauling, unless (here we go again) I upgrade to a larger model trailer. Can you just see me wife rolling her eyes. Most hobbies have a price tag of say, a 500 dollar set of clubs or maybe even a 50 dollar pack and hammer for you rock hounders.
I was also going to mention the half section of recreational land 175 miles away where I have a couple of miles of ATV trails to groom, but it's up for sale now and that need will go away for now. We'll probably replace with more ground somewhere else.
Well, the dog's dancing around holding her bladder so I guess I better go for now. Aren't you glad you asked?
Bruce
This isn't the Readers Digest version.
Here's the scoop on the usage. My home lot is 1 1/2 acres. I'm currently trying to prep my side pasture (1/4 acre-70' wide) for laying sod to use as a dog agility training area. I would like a tractor that I can also use to mow this area once it's planted. So, that brings up another question. Should the tractor have turf tires to avoid ripping up the agility area? The 4110 with a possible HST tranny and mid-mount pto for mowing might work. Or, is putting on and removing a mid-mount mower on a weekly basis as big a pain as scratching fleas and ticks. Maybe a rear pto mower is the way to go. Remember, the area is only 70 ft. wide, and I'm trying to avoid having to buy a small riding mower. So far the prep work is (was) being done with my Polaris 500cc ATV with a “quadravator”, harrows mat etc.. Just about burned it up (the ATV that is) which brought up the whole need (want) for a tractor to begin with. Side note: I see the 4110 has a 540/1000 pto, the 4530 just 540. So, what implements do you need the 1000 speed for? Show of hands please.
There is another 1/2 acre out back, which my wife uses for training stock dogs and pasturing a small flock of sheep. This fall I plan to prepare this area for planting pasture and will likely have someone come in and hydro-seed it.
Then there is the “River Bottoms Farm” which is 11 1/2 acres and a few miles away. We've cleared about 7 acres of those (@#*#@%) lovely Russian Olive trees so far, using our backhoe. This brings up yet another question. We have a nice JCB 214 4wd backhoe so I really don't have a need for an FEL on the new tractor, except maybe to enhance possible resale value and a small amount of misc. usage. My local dealer does not even like to order in a tractor without a FEL. Usage at the bottoms will probably include ongoing discing, plowing… some sort of Russian Olive removal plan, along with grooming our stockdog trail arena. Those removed Russian Olive trees now sit in two separate house sized piles waiting for a chipper (no burning allowed, dog-gone EPA).
My current utility trailer has two 3500 pound axles, so the 4530 will put me slightly overweight for hauling, unless (here we go again) I upgrade to a larger model trailer. Can you just see me wife rolling her eyes. Most hobbies have a price tag of say, a 500 dollar set of clubs or maybe even a 50 dollar pack and hammer for you rock hounders.
I was also going to mention the half section of recreational land 175 miles away where I have a couple of miles of ATV trails to groom, but it's up for sale now and that need will go away for now. We'll probably replace with more ground somewhere else.
Well, the dog's dancing around holding her bladder so I guess I better go for now. Aren't you glad you asked?
Bruce
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sounds like you would be better off with a smaller tractor, and of course you need an fel, you just dont know it yet.
DavesTractor
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With a JCB 4x4 backhoe available, I'd consider a 3215HST 4x4 with R4 tires. Very manueverable, not nearly as heavy, HST trans, quick attach loader (or buy it without), rear finish mower. This is a great mowing and tilling machine. It's built by Mitsu in Japan and is really top drawer. Plus, your dogs will like it, I'm sure!
Who is your local Mahindra dealer?
Who is your local Mahindra dealer?
