Ford 1710

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donb2

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I'm looking at this Ford 1710. I'd welcome info and comments on it. What would be a fair price? The bucket has holes rusted through in places and the tires are weathered and cracked, but have tubes.



Hydraulics all work, and everything sounds OK.



Any and all input appreciated!
 

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/ Ford 1710 #2  
How many hours are on the machine? What part of the country are you in? It looks a little rough, but could run like a sewing machine. It all makes a difference in price.
 
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How many hours are on the machine? What part of the country are you in? It looks a little rough, but could run like a sewing machine. It all makes a difference in price.

It has 1100 hours on it. I'm in MA.

It does seem to run well, but what do I know??

I'm uncomfortable with the issue of repair parts being an difficult to find and/ or pricey.

Thanks for your comment!
 
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Yikes, that first picture is almost alarmingly sad. But running a tractor and getting work done isn't a beauty contest! I am looking to get into a nice running CUT myself (this is my first post, actually), and I have seen a fair # of Ford 1600 and 1700 series tractors around here. I don't know why, but people seem to really abuse those things (always left outside, always bashed up grills and loader buckets....)

I don't have enough expertise to quote a fair asking price, but what are they _asking_ for it? I would throw out a random guess of around $5k, assuming the 1100 hours is correct. It has the look of more hours... or all of those 1100 were some heavy duty work!
 
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I've seen tractors like the 1700, 1710, 1715 go for 3K to 4K in auction - higher for a 4WD\FEL with lower hours. This one doesn't have the looks for sure. Someone posted on how parts are hard to find for the 1700, but not sure about the 1710.
 
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As an owner of a 1984 1710, yes parts can be hard to get unless you look to a tractor salvage yard. All tractor OE parts are going to be expensive, no matter what brand, model, or year.

That unit has probably spent it's life in the open, hence the rust. The bucket probably was kept in a carrying position so water would have set in it. You could get a salvage bucket for it so that should not be a big issue.

Most of the tractor should be fine as long as the hydraulics work well, it shifts well, and there are no abnormal sounds when running it around the yard in the various gears. This tractor should be able to run out for over 3500 hrs. With this age and exposure the hoses and tires have taken a beating. While the exterior of the hoses are cracked they still will hold pressure. I would probably replace the hoses which can be done from a on-line source noted on this forum for not too much expense. Three of my tires are original and suffer from there age and abuse (tree stumps), but have good thread depth and hold air well.

Other then the sheetmetal, the rust should be surface (bucket exception) and just going to take a fair amount of work to wire brush / grind off, then cover with something like POR15. Normal painting can go over this to make it look pretty again.

I would probably offer 4000 to 4500 for it considering the bucket, hose condition and rust. If the owner knows it's solid underneath, he might stubbornly want a few hundred more.
 
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Check the 4WD on the front axle, coolant in oil oil in coolant before buying. :thumbsup:
 
/ Ford 1710 #9  
I've seen tractors like the 1700, 1710, 1715 go for 3K to 4K in auction - higher for a 4WDFEL with lower hours. This one doesn't have the looks for sure. Someone posted on how parts are hard to find for the 1700, but not sure about the 1710.

where have you seen 1715 go for 3k i would like to find a few good running ones for that where im and they bring around 5k for 2wd no loader and up even at auction
 
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Being an owner of a very well taken care of 1710, it is sad to see one in this condition. I wouldn't pay much for it, you will be dumping lots of bucks into this guy. Maybe $1500 if it truely does run ok. The money that you think you may be saving by buying something in this condition, in the long run I think you will be putting much more into it. Best of luck to you with what you decide.
 
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Being an owner of a very well taken care of 1710, it is sad to see one in this condition. I wouldn't pay much for it, you will be dumping lots of bucks into this guy. Maybe $1500 if it truely does run ok. The money that you think you may be saving by buying something in this condition, in the long run I think you will be putting much more into it. Best of luck to you with what you decide.

I agree with this statement. I'd offer $1500, and depending on how well it ran and how much I wanted it, I would not pay a dime over $2000. Well kept equipment holds its value fairly well, abused equipment does not.
 
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For me, beauty is only skin deep.
I bought a 1720 10 years ago.
There was no grill or side screens, the hood had been smashed and beaten back out so many times the headlights were non-existant, even the brackets for the headlights were gone.
The FEL bucket was fish mouthed and had so many patches on it that I eventually threw it away. The tractor came from coastal FL originally so the salt did a number on the fenders too. Holes had rusted through both fenders in many places.
After I got it home and got it washed I also found that the bottom ears of the engine block, where it bolts to the transmission had been broken and welded back. I looked it over good before I bought it and except for the broken block ears, I knew what I was buying. I wasn't rooked. I had been told it had lived a rough life up to that point.

But it ran and worked SWEET. Hydraulics, engine, transmission, PTO, everything worked just as it should. It had ~1400 hrs when I bought it.

So I paid the guy $5500 ten years ago and brought it home.

It will reach the 3000 hr mark in a month or so. I've put ~1600 hrs on it in the 10 years I've owned it and it has NEVER let me down. It's done everything I asked of it, even when I asked more than I should. I've done minor repairs and normal maintainence and it has served me well.

Since it will be 25 years old and reach that 3000 hr mark this year, I've started to work on the cosmetics. I hope by the end of the year that it will look almost new again.

But it's up to you really. If you can look beyond the 'skin' and find what's in the heart of that machine, you may have a real gem on your hands like I did.

Mark
 
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We had a 1710 4wd with loader (almost identical to this one) for 20 years. It had 1600 hours on it when we bought it. The only problem we had were related to the seller (no longer in business). We had to re-engine it due to Loader damage to the engine case (at 1800 hours). We ran it to 3800 hours with only minor issues (water pumps, belts, hoses) It was a great little tractor.

Since it has a loader I would suggest looking at and testing the bolts that attach the loader to the engine case (4 on each side). If they're damaged or won't budge, be skeptical. Loader abuse will cause it to lever the engine case and can (and did in our case) cause the big end bearings to spin.

Check the 4wd and the PTO. The PTO is a 2 stage dry clutch. I doubt you'll want to split the tractor to get the PTO running.

If the PTO is good, the hydraulics work, the 4wd works AND the loader is properly attached to the tractor/engine, you can expect at least 2K hours more on that tractor.
 
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Rust and tractors go hand in hand. As long as its not cancer, which a few holes wearing in a bucket after 20 something years of use is definitly not out of the ordinary, then the looks should not matter. You can always get to cosmetics later on if it really bothers you and you need to have a shiney new tractor. If it is mechanically sound, then this is a good machine. I have the exact machine from 1986 and it has very similar rust... not the prettiest tractor, but she runs great, and does what I need it to do. I paid $5300 for mine used about 6 years ago, and it has served me well.
 
 
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