Ford 5000 Engine RPM

[Soundguy]

thats just going over board if u need a 100 hp tractor u should have bought a 100hp tractor i dont like turning up pumps or adding turbos anyways if u have to do that u need a different tractor

he turbo itself isn't a problem.. it makes an engine more efficient than naturally aspirated. t-charged machines run in higher altitudes don't suffer the losses of NA machines..e tc.

it's when you get happy with the smoke screw, and have a way to force feed it air that you can get into trouble.

but yeah.. i agree.. if you have a 33hp tractor and need 45.. get a 45hp tractor and kee the 33 for light jobs or sell / trade..

soundguy

 

[Jerry/MT]

thats just going over board if u need a 100 hp tractor u should have bought a 100hp tractor i dont like turning up pumps or adding turbos anyways if u have to do that u need a different tractor

Amen to that!

 

[Jerry/MT]

he turbo itself isn't a problem.. it makes an engine more efficient than naturally aspirated. t-charged machines run in higher altitudes don't suffer the losses of NA machines..e tc.

it's when you get happy with the smoke screw, and have a way to force feed it air that you can get into trouble.

but yeah.. i agree.. if you have a 33hp tractor and need 45.. get a 45hp tractor and kee the 33 for light jobs or sell / trade..

soundguy

Turboing a tractor engine that wasn't designed to be uprated is a sure way to have reliability and engine life problems. Turboing increase the airflow and thus increases the power.The turboed engines, unless the induction system is redesigned to be larger, suffer the same loss relationships as the NA engine. Some of this is overcome with boost and some with the increase max temperatures. Most of the efficency gain is from the later. In general, the higher the max temperature, the more the thermal efficency increases.

The loads and temperatures on the componets increase (that's goes along with the power increase) when you boost a normally aspirated engine and you will find the the weakest link in the engine when you do this. The same with "turning up the wick". If you know that the engine bill of materials uses all the same components in the derated engine as in the uprated engine (cooling oil jet size, oil pump size, piston crown materials and coatings, etc etc) then you can safely turn up the pump. The engine won't be as durable as the de-rated model but it won't be any worse then the up rated model. (That says nothing about the increased loads on the drive lines for which the same logic holds.) Most of this type of info rests with whoever designed the machine and this info is not generally published.

You can "hot rod" any engine. The real question is how long will it last. The days of the over designed engine are in the past. Modern design technology and design and manufacturings costs drive engine development costs and so the margins on durability are set to meet the guarantees and the design life for the machine. Wan't more power, buy more power from the get go.

 

[Soundguy]

i for sure wouldn't try to up tune a modern engine.. they are already built to just barely meet thier rated needs as it is.

when this trhead started, ie.. with the ford 5000 in mind, that's what my scope was limited to. there were comercial upgrade kits for it via M&W for turbo.. plus the 7000 was essentially a 5000 with a turbo ( ok.. a lil mor ethan that.. but essentially.. )

soundguy