Ford 7710 clutch replacement

whitetiger · Apr 8, 2007

If I remember correctly the NH repair time is listed at about 9 hours for a 7710 FWA flatdeck to R&R a clutch.
I have split approx 250 tractor in the last 27 years. They have ranged in size from compacts to 200 plus HP. The 7710 is one of the simplest of its size to split. Remove the hoods and fuel tanks and you will see that everything is in the open and easy to get to. They are pretty much goof-proof. If you need pages from the repair manuel scanned, email me and I will send them to you.

sandman2234 · Apr 11, 2007

I completely agree that this shouldn't be my first tractor to split, and it probably won't be. I have a friend who needs a B6000 split and I am negotiating with him to swap labor and tools. I have pretty much all the tools that it takes to fab metal, and before I started the flatbed/dump trailer a couple months ago(yes I am slow, with very little free time) I had a lot of extra metal. The pile is nowhere nearly as large as it was, but still has some good stuff in it! I have two rollaround toolboxes full of wrenches and such, as I worked in a machine shop for a couple years and needed a new set of tools, because I was doing work at home along with at the shop. The boss gave me a toolbox allowance since I was hired with a "no tools" requirement.
I have an old Ford truck with a jib crane on it, along with a crane rail that projects about 8' past the rear of the truck. My forklift is acting up, but it will still raise and lower, just won't move under it's own power. Something that needs to be fixed and sold!
I am not above building a crane rail directly above the tractor, with two hoists to suspend both halves.
Hopefully I will know if the clutch needs replacement in a week or so, when they get around to releasing it.
I may ask for help concerning the splitting tools mentioned, in case I need to build one similar.
I asked the auction company to check into the manuals, but as expected, I got no reply. I will have one before I tempt fate!
Thanks to all, especially FWJ, as I KNOW he means exactly what he says. I would consider having it done, but SWMBO isn't going to release funding for a clutch job, so I will have to make the money with the JD to pay for it, something I really didn't want to do.
David from jax
Thanks

sandman2234 · Apr 26, 2007

Well, the good news is...
The 7710 managed to finally show up at my house today, so now I have a big blue thing sitting in the driveway! It is much, much larger than it seemed when it was parked near those other huge tractors.
I wisely paid someone to move it, despite the hassle it was to get everything together. I at first thought I might be able to haul it on that flatbed/dump trailer I am building, but it isn't ready and my buddy told me not to try it. After seeing it on a Landoll trailer, I feel foolish for even contemplating it. With it measuring 11' 3" wide at the tires, it was an adventure to get down the 2 mile narrow road that comes off the main street. Doing it at 5pm didn't help the drivers' nerves any I am sure.
Clutch seems ok. It climbed a Landoll trailer today, with the mower attached, and didn't seem to mind. I know that isn't loading it very heavy, but just the general feel of it seems ok.
The bad news is there is a hydraulic leak coming from somewhere around there, so if the seal is bad, it will have to be split anyway. Hopefully not, but that is going to have to wait till I can find a manual.
One reason I missed the several hydraulic leaks, was the fact that the rear end dipstick wouldn't touch the bottom of the dipstick. Hard to leak when there isn't anything to leak.
I found what appears to be a serial number, and it is probably a 1985 or 1986 model.
I need to get horizontal as 3am comes early when you have to work for a living.
David from jax

john_bud · Apr 26, 2007

David,

Congrats on getting the machine home - and even more congrats for doing it the smart way!

If you think you may need to split it, start spraying all the bolts, nuts and things now. If there are bolts and nuts that have been painted over, wire brush them clean and spray. Find the size of the bolts and nuts - make sure you have the wrenches, sockets (and strong impact wrench!) for all the sizes. I found it somewhat inconvenient to travel 38 miles to the store for a socket when you're about 7/8th of the way thru a split....

good luck,
jb

sandman2234 · Apr 27, 2007

I plan on doing the PB spray routine this weekend. Probably need at least a couple gallons! I might look into some Kroil, but I have plenty of PB Blaster on hand.
I am pretty well set on the tool dept, as I had a rollaround full when I went to work for a friends machine shop, and he couldn't afford me and my toolbox (since I work at home also, I needed them there), so he gave me a tool allowance and I purchased a whole new set of tools. When I left there, I brought them home and have two rollarounds full scattered somewhere in my garage. I feel reasonably sure I have all of the wrenches and sockets. I will need to look into the impact situation, as the shop supplied all of them, and I might not have one strong enough to handle this thing.
David from jax

jeffreyb · Mar 31, 2013

im doing a clutch in my ford tw 5 right now can get a kit with clutch presure plate pilot bearing for 435.00 i also have to put one in my 7710 that kit i can get for 411.00 from all states ag parts i have done several clutches on my ford tractors not that hard with splitting stands or an a-frame hoist hiring it done im thinkin at least 1000.00 all state ag parts are great source for good parts new ,used and rebuilt ill give you the number you can call for a free catalogue 1-877-530-4430 hope this helps

jeffreyb · Mar 31, 2013

hey im going to split my 7710 could you send me some pages ive done my 8000 4000 fords but not the 7710 glad its an easy split never done the fwa tractor before but like to do things myself always a learning expirience also im havin trouble with the fwa wont dissengage how do i test the solenoid to se if its what the problem is thanks very much jeffreyb@rrt.net

AGRIMAN · Apr 1, 2013

Like whitetiger, I have split many tractors of all sizes. I would say that if you have never split one before…. then your first time could be a little "challenging" , but I guess that also depends on your mechanical ability. Just take your time and watch what you are doing and you should be fine. Splitting stands are nice especially if working alone, but most of the time I just use a good floor jack (heavy 2 ½ ton or larger shop size)under the front and a bottle jack under the rear. It's sounds like you have some extra help so you should be fine there too.

In my opinion, most larger tractors are easier to split than a compact. It’s usually easier to reach everything that needs disconnecting and the added weight seems to help when “rocking” it back together.

Here’s a few tips that will help.

1. Cut some wooden wedges to lock out the front axle. You can easily adjust them when reassembling if needed.
2. Watch the floor jack when rolling it apart and make sure it doesn’t slip.
3. Push evenly on both front tires and rolling it straight as you can. Just makes it easier to reassemble.
4. Separate it just far enough to give yourself room to work.
5. Place both halves on jack stands or blocks when separated.
6. When going back together, watch the gap between the engine and clutch housing (both top to bottom and side to side) make small corrections as needed to insure when they meet everything is straight.
7. DO NOT pull it together with the bolts. Once you have it close, you can start a few bell housing bolt by hand to use as guides if you want to but make sure it comes together on its own. Don’t apply any force to the bolts with a wrench and “pull” it together.