Ford Excursion - I think I must have one! Comments welcome.

[SuperDuty335]

I have a 2001 Ex Limited 7.3 Powerstroke with 149k hwy miles if you want it. It has all the bells and whistles and gets 18/24 mpg with the DP Tuner 80hp tune. It is my wife's daily driver but now she wants a new Mustang It has always been maintained/washed/tires rotated, etc, etc and is still tight. I'd like to get $13k.

 

[Duffster]

I have a 2001 Ex Limited 7.3 Powerstroke with 149k hwy miles if you want it. It has all the bells and whistles and gets 18/24 mpg with the DP Tuner 80hp tune. It is my wife's daily driver but now she wants a new Mustang It has always been maintained/washed/tires rotated, etc, etc and is still tight. I'd like to get $13k.

Do you have any pics?

Where are you from?

 

[WH401]

As I've posted before with references, the 6.0 PSD has proven to have the fewest warranty claims of any Ford engine produced that year demonstrates that the best selling light duty pickup diesel engine in this country isn't exactly a sure bet for issues.

What you fail to mention is that this was only for the 2006 MY, and the amount of warranty claims on the previous MY "6 oh no"'s was astronomical. No matter how reliable that boat anchor may have been towards the end of it's sales life in a superduty, it will forever be the most disgraceful excuse for a diesel engine ever put in a light duty pickup.

And honestly, you really think a 6.0 Powerstroke was the best selling light duty diesel engine in the country? The 6.6 Duramax has sold more units than that monstrosity. The 5.9 Cummins was the staple diesel engine of the 3/4 - 1-ton Dodge trucks for more than 18 years. The 6.0 Powerstroke will never even come close to breaking the number of 5.9 engines sold, and the number of Dodge 5.9 Cummins truck's still driven on the road today.

 

[mark2610d]

I have a 2000 excursion 4x4 limited 7.3 diesel and it has been the best vehicle I have ever owned. I have 213,000 miles on it now and it has been rock solid reliable except for water pump, and altenator. I have towed my kubota 3240 cab tractor many times and it pulled it with ease.

 

[Diamondpilot]

But you now contend that "with my own 2 hands" you've modified a diesel pickup. A bit of a contradiction one would say. When dispensing advice it's always best to be consistent, huh?

Its kind of like all the Dmax guys I know put airbags under them. Wonder why?

Chris

 

[Diamondpilot]

What you fail to mention is that this was only for the 2006 MY, and the amount of warranty claims on the previous MY "6 oh no"'s was astronomical. No matter how reliable that boat anchor may have been towards the end of it's sales life in a superduty, it will forever be the most disgraceful excuse for a diesel engine ever put in a light duty pickup.

And honestly, you really think a 6.0 Powerstroke was the best selling light duty diesel engine in the country? The 6.6 Duramax has sold more units than that monstrosity. The 5.9 Cummins was the staple diesel engine of the 3/4 - 1-ton Dodge trucks for more than 18 years. The 6.0 Powerstroke will never even come close to breaking the number of 5.9 engines sold, and the number of Dodge 5.9 Cummins truck's still driven on the road today.

They may have beaten them in total sales but in a one year time span Ford sells more than the other two combined. To call it the most disgraceful is a joke. Look at the 6.2 and 6.5 GM clunkers.

I have 2 6.0's and would not want anything else other than maybe a 5.9 Cummins stuffed in a Superduty chassis and body.

Chris

 

[Builder]

But you now contend that "with my own 2 hands" you've modified a diesel pickup. A bit of a contradiction one would say. When dispensing advice it's always best to be consistent, huh?

I see absolutely no contradiction there. In fact, I see reinforcement of my point that Ford 6L's & 7.3 need modification to keep up with other brands whether I modified my 7.3L or you modified your 6L.

Why wouldn't a Ford 6L owner want to modify an engine that comes from the factory with less HP & TQ than the competition???

 

[WH401]

They may have beaten them in total sales but in a one year time span Ford sells more than the other two combined. To call it the most disgraceful is a joke. Look at the 6.2 and 6.5 GM clunkers.

I have 2 6.0's and would not want anything else other than maybe a 5.9 Cummins stuffed in a Superduty chassis and body.

Chris

And more than 50% of those sales have to constantly be returned to the dealerships to fix problems. The 6.2's and 6.5's weren't the greatest diesel engines, but to compare them to the 6.0 is just plain ridiculous. At least for the most part you could count on either of those engines to run right. The 6.0 might be a somewhat adequate performer, but half the time most don't run right, and you will never be able to change public opinion or the reputation that they have. When even diehard Ford guys will tell you not to even touch an engine from there beloved brand, you know it's got major problems. Some people have had great luck with 6.0's, I have a friend that has an 03 that hasn't had one lick of problems in 115k miles, but unfortunately those kinds of good situations are few and far between. If it were't for the nightmare of the 6.0, Ford and International would probably still be business partners. That right there shows you how much pain that hunk o' junk caused either side. It made them part ways on a known successful business commodity.

 

[Builder]

And more than 50% of those sales have to constantly be returned to the dealerships to fix problems. The 6.2's and 6.5's weren't the greatest diesel engines, but to compare them to the 6.0 is just plain ridiculous. At least for the most part you could count on either of those engines to run right. The 6.0 might be a somewhat adequate performer, but half the time most don't run right, and you will never be able to change public opinion or the reputation that they have. When even diehard Ford guys will tell you not to even touch an engine from there beloved brand, you know it's got major problems. Some people have had great luck with 6.0's, I have a friend that has an 03 that hasn't had one lick of problems in 115k miles, but unfortunately those kinds of good situations are few and far between. If it were't for the nightmare of the 6.0, Ford and International would probably still be business partners. That right there shows you how much pain that hunk o' junk caused either side. It made them part ways on a known successful business commodity.

Yes, Ford & IH were attached at the hip for decades. It really made me sad to see the lover's quarrel between them, especially when I owned 3 Ford Superduties and an IH truck at the same time. The 6L was the knife that cut the partnership between them forever. I lost a lot of faith in them over that whole mess.

At least it's over and they cut their ties. Now they'll be introducing their 4th diesel since '03. The "scorpion diesel" from one of their Mexican engine plants is due out in just a month or 2. Sad to see the Indiana Casting Complex bite the dust forever in just a few months in favor of a mexican cast & built engine . Hope this one is "the one" for them!

read here: Automotive World - Navistar?s MaxxForce 7 pre-empts Ford?s Scorpion

 

[Builder]

They may have beaten them in total sales but in a one year time span Ford sells more than the other two combined. To call it the most disgraceful is a joke. Look at the 6.2 and 6.5 GM clunkers.

Chris

Seems a bit unfair to compare 2 GM diesels built largely in the 80's & 90's costing about $1,500 to maybe $2,500 extra to a IH built Ford diesel built from 2003-2007 costing about $5,500 extra.