Ford Industrial backhoe / loader

[Big Hammer]

Can somebody help me out in determining the year and model of this machine?!!

I have owned it for a couple of years; been sitting in the shop for the last 20 or so years. Previous owner started it occasionally.

I think it to be a mid to late 60s' machine. The only numbers I could find on the castings are:

310835 (cast into the right side of trans)
312480 (cast into the left side of trans)
313349 (cast into a body part below dash / steering wheel)

The tractor is in what seems to be good condittion. Previous owner purchased it in 1969 to to develope the property to build on. I bought the property along with the tractor (which had been in storage for the last 20+ years).

For an industrial model, it has had very low hours of use for the last 40 yrs. I want to put it back into limited service and would like to find out more about this tractor.

The loader and backhoe look to be original equipment. The loader has a tag which reads I9-I3I SN 3035

This is a 4 cyl gas model, I think to be around 50 HP (?)


Anybody familiar with this machine?

Thanks!

Mark

 

[Big Hammer]

After doing a serious web search, I beleive it to be a 1801 series, possibly a 4140 or a 4040.

I sure would like to get more info on this thing! Anybody out there got one...?

thanks

Mark

 

[Soundguy]

almost all fords after 1952 have the id info stamped into the bellhousing flattened boss aft of the starter..

soundguy

 

[Big Hammer]

Thanks, Soundguy-

I didn't think it was there at first, due to 'couple layers of paint.

There are two lines of numbers; top line:

1821-S

bottom line:

<>63559<>

One uncertain digit is the 'dash' in the upper line; it looks as though the person stamping the numbers used a "1" layed on it's side as a dash. Could it have been a mistake, and was intened to be a "1"? Which would make the top line read: 18211S.

Thanks to anybody that can de-code the numbers for me.

Mark

 

[irwin]

TractorData.com Ford 1821 industrial tractor information

This is a possiblity....

 

[irwin]

Someone is selling a parts manual over on e-bay.
Here's a picture of the cover.

 

[Big Hammer]

Thanks Tim,

Its not that one, though. Pretty sure it is a 60

 

[Big Hammer]

...pretty sure it is a 60's model year. Has a different grill altogether. Real heavy duty model with headlights in the grill and F O R D emblem is vertically displayed.

I think it is a 4140 or a 4040 since it does not have the cable type steering mechanism that the 1801's have. Has power steering.

I have a picture I would like to post - if I can figure out how to do it...

thanks!

Mark

 

[irwin]

1st: download picture to your pc
2nd: click on the "quote" button on this post (right lower) or "post reply" on this thread. (not quick reply)
3rd: scroll down to "manage attachments" button and click.
4th: click on (one of the) "browse" on top of attachments window
5th: another window will come up, find your picture in the file you saved it in.
6th: double click on it
7th: click on "upload" button just below browse buttons.(in manage attachments window)
8th: click on "preview post" button
9th: you should see your pic as a thumbnail pic.

Hope this helps.

 

[Rick from NC]

...pretty sure it is a 60's model year. Has a different grill altogether. Real heavy duty model with headlights in the grill and F O R D emblem is vertically displayed.

I think it is a 4140 or a 4040 since it does not have the cable type steering mechanism that the 1801's have. Has power steering.

I have a picture I would like to post - if I can figure out how to do it...

thanks!

Mark

The serial number makes it an early 1959 model.

The model number decodes to:

1 = industrial
8 = 172 ci engine
2 = 4-speed trans/no 3-pt/no pto
1 = 01 series
-S = sherman aux transmission

It would have looked something like this from the factory:

There are a few gurus on the Ford tractor board at YTMAG than can tell you more.

 

[Big Hammer]

Yes, thats what it looks like! thanks for posting that photo, Rick. And thanks for the tutorial, Tim. I will try it later when I get a picture if my own tractor.

Mark

 

[Big Hammer]

Curious, one of you happen to know where I can find out what fluid to use in the transmission? It is a manual trans; has a separate reservoir for the loader.

Would it be best to use 80-90wt gear oil? Or universal tractor fluid?

I'm not sure what to add, its low and I want to add...

thanks

Mark

 

[Soundguy]

in most cases fluid meeting M2C134D spec is fine in all sumps but the engine ( and hyd brakes ).

soundguy

 

[Big Hammer]

soundguy,

thankyou for your response -

Sorry for my ignorance on this..

I just want to be sure that you are aware / familiar with what my transmission is: MANUAL (4sp) w/ Sherman aux.

the product you mentioned sounds more like a ATF type product, but again, I am ignorant re the fluids req'd.

thanks
MArk

 

[Soundguy]

It's a UTF product.. ( universal tractor fluid ) not an ATF product.. I've got plenty of ford 4spds at my house.. and a 3spd with a sherman.. 3 5speeds, and a few 8 speeds.

soundguy

 

[smitn]

Thanks, Soundguy-

I didn't think it was there at first, due to 'couple layers of paint.

There are two lines of numbers; top line:

1821-S

bottom line:

<>63559<>

One uncertain digit is the 'dash' in the upper line; it looks as though the person stamping the numbers used a "1" layed on it's side as a dash. Could it have been a mistake, and was intened to be a "1"? Which would make the top line read: 18211S.

Thanks to anybody that can de-code the numbers for me.

Mark

I have 1821, (broke apart replacing clutch) let me know if I can help
you.. not expert, but have been around this tractor from time to time since it was new in 1959.. I now own it, and in process of getting it up and running again.. I HOPE!! ;-)

 

[irwin]

I have 1821, (broke apart replacing clutch) let me know if I can help
you.. not expert, but have been around this tractor from time to time since it was new in 1959.. I now own it, and in process of getting it up and running again.. I HOPE!! ;-)

Hi smitn. Welcome to TBN.

This thread has me interested what the front of the 1821 tractor looks like. I was unable to find a picture online.
If you would take a picture and post it I'd appreciate it. Thanks.....

 

[Soundguy]

post #10 has a pretty good depiction..

soundguy

 

[Big Hammer]

Smitn,

great to hear from you, another HD Industrial Ford tractor owner!

Lucky for me, the previous owner already replaced the clutch. My tractor has been sitting (indoors) for years, unused, but started occasionally.

I knew the previous owner who had the machine since the 60's; I have owned if for a couple years.

I am trying to get it back into running / operating condition also.

Mine is a backhoe / loader model, both of which are original equipment. The tractor is older than i thought, as I was told here that it was a 1959. I thought it was mid to late 60's.

COOL, though, since I was born in 1959!

Any thoughts as to the hydrolics on your tractor? I have been told that the Ford fittings are impossible to find; most have gone with JIC ftgs. Don't know what i will do when a hose blows. P.O. cut the Ford fitting in two, then brazed a JIC fitting so as to make the repair!...

Is that what I will be looking at??

thanks

Mark

 

[Soundguy]

are you talking about banjo fittings?

soundguy