Ford Production

[5030]

Ahhhh, isnt it great? inflation is in full vertical trajectory, interest rates nudging upwards, more "common sense gun restrictions" in the pipeline, teachers union and woke culture runs the country and big tech has us by the shorts!

Sign me up!

You've been 'signed up' all along. It just isn't by choice, it's mandatory.....

 

[MossRoad]

Thread pruned. Please continue the discussion without the politics and personal jabs.

 

[Bearsixty7]

This Chip shortage still doesn't make sense. The power issue in Feb didn't halt TI here in NTX and I really don't believe the Austin interruption was but a few days and it takes no time to get everything back to full production. There is something else going on here. I suspect maybe a labor issue elsewhere due to the unemployment payouts with the covid addition is just keeping more people from going back to work and not necessarily in the chip making sector.

 

[Hay Dude]

Call me “isolationist”, but I say make em all here. We keep our own employed and are less vulnerable to attack.

 

[5030]

IC production was 'offshored' years ago due to labor costs and other factors and you just cannot 'flip a switch' and bring it back, so it is what it is.

Takes years to set up production here, not instantaneous and the labor cost still remains (here) and have gotten worse, not better.

 

[Hay Dude]

IC production was 'offshored' years ago due to labor costs and other factors and you just cannot 'flip a switch' and bring it back, so it is what it is.

Takes years to set up production here, not instantaneous and the labor cost still remains (here) and have gotten worse, not better.

I always hated that expression "it is what it is".
We put a man on the moon. Deep down, we still are a nation of "do-ers" and although its dwindling, I think we can manage to produce chips here.
Good grief.

 

[Bearsixty7]

IC production was 'offshored' years ago due to labor costs and other factors and you just cannot 'flip a switch' and bring it back, so it is what it is.

Takes years to set up production here, not instantaneous and the labor cost still remains (here) and have gotten worse, not better.

Actually, yes they could. There are many fabs here in the US that are already equipped to make any chip and could be doing so in no time at all, It is the cost that prevents Auto manufacturers from doing so.
There are actually some idled fabs due to low demand for the older technology which many of the automotive industry uses (Larger design rules).

 

[5030]

I always hated that expression "it is what it is".
We put a man on the moon. Deep down, we still are a nation of "do-ers" and although its dwindling, I think we can manage to produce chips here.
Good grief.

Never said we could not. What I implied was, not immediately. It still is what it is. Instant gratification won't happen despite your wanting it to.

 

[5030]

Actually, yes they could. There are many fabs here in the US that are already equipped to make any chip and could be doing so in no time at all, It is the cost that prevents Auto manufacturers from doing so.
There are actually some idled fabs due to low demand for the older technology which many of the automotive industry uses (Larger design rules).

The one thing people fail to understand about automotive and that is, the automakers want everything as cheap as possible so they can maximize profit. Cheap as possible means offshore chips among other things.

Why 'it is what it is'...lol

 

[Bearsixty7]

Takes years to set up production here, not instantaneous and the labor cost still remains (here) and have gotten worse, not better.

The one thing people fail to understand about automotive and that is, the automakers want everything as cheap as possible so they can maximize profit. Cheap as possible means offshore chips among other things.

Why 'it is what it is'...lol

Yes, what I said. I was responding to your earlier post about takes years to setup production and that is not correct. Production could begin in a very short amount of time, it's the higher price the US chip makers require that prevents the auto makers from using them.