Fords aluminium body

   / Fords aluminium body #61  
Where steel will get ruined if it’s on fire, it doesn’t burn. On the other hand aluminum actually burns. In a car crash fires aren’t that common but it can be a problem if the sheet metal is fuel for the fire.
I don't think the aluminum burns, unless it is a magnesium alloy, but it does melt at a much lower temperature than steel does.
Had a friend that had a fire in a KW cabover a long time ago, burned the cab completely off and left big puddles of aluminum on the pavement under it.
 
   / Fords aluminium body #62  
By the time aluminum melts or burns, I think it's pretty much game over for the truck, aluminum or steel.
 
   / Fords aluminium body #63  
By the time aluminum melts or burns, I think it's pretty much game over for the truck, aluminum or steel.

Agreed. It doesn’t take much of a fire to total a vehicle and buy the time it melts aluminum it’s 100 percent trashed anyway.
 
   / Fords aluminium body #64  
I don‘t know if aluminum burns or not but the videos I saw it sure looks like it does.

Edit, I looked it up, it doesn’t burn. It sure does disappear though.
 
   / Fords aluminium body #65  
I figure if my truck catches fire, or is in a fire, it doesn't much matter to me if the aluminum body melts or not. It's gonna be "toast" either way. It'll be totalled and I'll be in the market.
 
   / Fords aluminium body #66  
Aluminum melts out at around 1200 F and is not considered flammable in solid form. It is combustible if it is in powdered form. 1200 F is fairly low temp relative to a real world fire so aluminum generally melts out in every incident.

If you happen to come across a site where something burned that had aluminum in it you will probably find melted aluminum stuck to the pavement.
 
   / Fords aluminium body #67  
I'm repairing corrosion on aluminum hoods, and tailgates, on different vehicles. on a fairly regular basis.

It's not uncommon to see it in my area, when they are repaired improperly, and or over 10 years old.

Aluminum body panels are very susceptible to something called fiiform corrosion, which is a type that travels under the paint and creates large blisters in the paint coatings.

The quality of the paint system used both at the factory, and during a repair, particularly the undercoats, (that would be the primers, and sealers), are critical to the protection against this type of corrosion.

While I have not as yet, seen corrosion on an aluminum F-150, if Ford uses the same paint system they have been using, I have no doubt it will eventually happen.

Aluminum parts do not pit, or perforate as badly as steel panels. But, they are far less repairable, from collision damage.

I have repaired some minor, to medium sized dents on aluminum F-150's. The panels are more difficult and time consuming to make flawless repairs on. This has always been a problem with aluminum panels, because they tend to flex a lot more than a similar steel panel. If the panel moves as you try and sand it, it's not going to be easy to get all the waves out of a repair. This means you could need to replace an aluminum panel that would have been repairable, if it was made from steel.

It has a lot to do with how particular you are. Many customers are oblivious to ripples, and waves. Some don't even see substantial differences in color mismatches.

Others have very discriminating eyes, and are all but impossible to please. Those customers will be more likely to be dissatisfied, with their aluminum truck after a repair.

A repairer needs to take additional steps to properly treat and paint aluminum panels, during a repair. Many shops will regard this as unnecessary, and skip them to save costs, since cutting this corner this will not be known right away.

While the biggest factor in the quality of a repair is the person doing it, there are factors that can tie the hands of the person doing the repair, limiting what is possible.

So yes, the aluminum bodies will not be full of holes in the same given period of time, as a steel truck will. But, there is a trade off. It's still going to have ugly paint blisters, more serious body damage from wear and tare, repairs that will be more expensive, and probably not look as good when they are finished.

As long as you realize it's not a perfect solution, you may be happy with it.
 
   / Fords aluminium body #68  
Only if you live where they use salt on the roads. They use non corrosive de-icers in my state.
What might those de-icers be? I know of many of them within the industry and none of them are actually non corrosive. There is a spectrum yes, some are less than others, but none in common use on roadways for de-icing or anti-icing are actually non corrosive.
 
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   / Fords aluminium body #69  
aluminum beer cans dissapear in a bonfire quite quickly...

Vermont uses something in heavy doeses on the highways. my wifes travel to Newport and home, and deposits a thick crust on garage floor. My side, local roads, not so much. Sweeps away from floor, not sure about car parts...
 
   / Fords aluminium body #70  
What might those de-icers be? I know of many of them within the industry and none of them are actually non corrosive. There is a spectrum yes, some are less than others, but none in common use on roadways for de-icing or anti-icing are actually non corrosive.
I actually don’t know. I do know that they put a lot of this product out by scattering behind the snowplow and nobody has rust issues with their vehicles. It is granulated and mixed with fine volcanic cinders (for traction). I do know that it’s not rock salt like they use in the east. I have also seen them spread the chemicals with sand instead of cinders.
 
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