Forest Fires

   / Forest Fires #21  
RockMnt1,

Our thoughts are sure with you and yours. The stress of the unknown must be terrible. Guess all of us have our little part of paradise and every so often it shows us we are only using the space not controlling it.

Local news here says things are looking better than a few days ago. Keep us up to date as you can. Good luck.

MarkV
 
   / Forest Fires #22  
Hope they get it under control and all turns out well for you.

If you get an opportunity to go watch those Combat Engineers work, do it. I spent a good portion of my military career in the Combat Engineers. What you will see is a couple of platoons worth of 18, 19 and 20 years olds hot dogging some D7E's with Rome Plows Kit's mounted. They will be having a blast and making one hell of a fire break. They don't get the opportunity to do real projects very often and when they do, they do it right.

They will also have a maintenance platoon set up somewhere near the action and an M88 Tank Recovery vehicle on standby so that can run in there and drag a D7 out of the woods if they have to.
 
   / Forest Fires #23  
RockMnt1,

I hope you emptied that fridge and the freezer. Believe me,
you don't want to open 'em if the power goes out for a few
days and you left ANY food in there.... /w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif

I think the recommendation for people who have
summer/winter houses is to prop the fridge door
open to let the air circulate.

I moved a few fridges/freezers full of food after Hurrican Floyd
came through NC. After a few weeks without power in
hot humid weather, well, lets just say I understand the phrase,
"Gag a maggot." /w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif

IF you run into this situation, try some Vicks on you upper lip
to help with the smell.

I don't know if you can get the smell out of the appliance once
the food goes. The appliances I saw where toasted due to flood
waters so they got dumped.

Good Luck!
Dan McCarty
 
   / Forest Fires #24  
<font color=blue>you don't want to open 'em if the power goes out for a few days and you left ANY food in there</font color=blue>

Dan, several years ago a neighbor across the alley came over one evening and borrowed my portable air compressor, took it into his garage, aired up his kids' bike tires, then brought it back (he should have just aired up their tires in my garage). The next day they went on vacation back east for a week and the first day he went back to work when they got home, his wife went out in the garage to get something out of the freezer. He had unplugged the freezer to plug in the air compressor on that receptacle, then forgot to plug the freezer back in./w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gif The odor was so bad that she called him at work to come home and help her clean out the freezer. He came home, opened the freezer door, ran out into the alley to puke, and she had to take everything out of the freezer by herself./w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif They moved that freezer out into the driveway and washed it with every kind of cleaner they could think of, then left it with charcoal in it for several days, and then had it hauled to the landfill./w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif Just couldn't get rid of that odor.
 
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#25  
RockMtn1,

Thanks for posting and delineating all these 'lessons.' Stay safe and ready and keep us posted of your status. Our thoughts and prayers remain with you.

Bob
 
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#26  
Oh No!!!!!!.....Big Arizona fire now in TBNer Jim Youtz's home town of Show Low. Show Low's been evacuated with other nearby towns. Jim.....if somehow you're able to keep up with TBN, know that you're in our thoughts and prayers. This is so sad and Jim as much forecasted this would happen in the article he wrote. See the "How Wet Is It " discussion thread. How I wish I had the power to send some of the soaking rains we had in the Northeast over to the western states that need it so badly.

<A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.arizonarepublic.com/news/articles/0621Rimfire21.html>http://www.arizonarepublic.com/news/articles/0621Rimfire21.html</A>
 
   / Forest Fires #27  
Bird,

After Hurricane Floyd wiped out Eastern NC, I took a group of
people down east to help clean up. Many stories from that
experience....

We cleaned out three houses for people. One of the houses
was an elderly couple who had managed to clean out all the
stuff out of the house execept the appliances. We where
"scheduled" to work on certain houses via the town government
which was really being done by the local Babtist church.

There is a story there as well. But I'll TRY to stay on topic. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
But I have already diverged a bit anyway....

We where working on one house. A young man who had really done
nothing to help himself out. Can't really blame him but he just
stood out after we helped the next two houses. Anyway, we where
just about finished with his house and a little old lady stopped by
and asked if we could help her friends. I told her we where scheduled
via the church but asked where the house was and what needed to be
done. Its just down the road a piece says she and they only need
a few appliances moved......

OK. This is what we where here for even though it was lunch time
and we was HUNGRY. So I ask the guys what do they want to do?

We followed the lady to the house. Course it was more like the house
was a FAIR piece down the road than just A piece. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

We get there and the house is cleaned out except for the appliances.
VERY impressed that these people did all this work themselves...

We start moving out the appliances. A bunch of guys start in the
kitchen. Me and I guy I call Muscles head for the utility room that
has a "small" freezer. /w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif Now you have to remember
EVERYTHING stinks. Even outside there is The Smell. BUT, we got
to the utility room. NOW there was a STENCH! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif The
thing about fridges/freezers and floods is that the appliances have
a big air space at the bottom. So when the get flooded they are
"light" on the bottom and they flip over. BTW, this house was a
good three feet off the grade and the water was a good three-four
feet up in the house...

SOOOO, flipped appliances. WONDERFUL. Now the appliance was small.
It was a small chest freezer. The problem was that the utility room
was small. Reall small. Just big enough to get the freezer to one
side, a passage out the back door and a small shelf. The freezer just
fit. And it was upside down. And of course the door opened IN and
not out. And the freezer was full of food. The other wonderfulness
of the whole thing was that they where burning trash off of their
garden. Very nice garden. In fact most of the used to be frozen food
was from the garden. The other item they had in the freezer was
butter. Lots of butter. The lady had scored a huge supply of butter.
Like FIFTY pounds of butter. Now the good thing was that the power
had been off for a couple of weeks so the butter was no longer frozen
and in the freezer. In fact the butter was a liquid. And since it was a
liquid and the freezer was upside down the butter was now in a deep
puddle in the room. This made it much easier to lift the freezer. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
/w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif

Course the bad thing was that the butter was now a liquid that had
been sitting on the floor in a puddle an inch or so deep. For a couple
of weeks. In hot and humid weather. Yum YUM! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

I'm not really sure what life forms where being created in that goo.

I just know it smelled. BAD! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif Can't describe the smell.
Don't really want to remember either! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Muscles, myself and a guy that had a disorder that prevented him
from being able to smell, can you believe I found people that just
where perfect for the job at hand, managed to get the freezer
upright. It took alot of time, effort, sweating, swearing and
breath breaks. We had to run out of the house to breath from time
to time. It would have been worse if it had not been for the fire.
The smoke from the fire would drift into the doorway from time
to time to cover the STENCH. Can't believe choking smoke would
be a blessing. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Eventually we get this thing out of the house and to the street.

The other part of the gang had cleaned out the entire kitchen
while we wrestled with the single freezer. We think we are about
to be able to go eat lunch when the lady asks if we could carry
out ONE more freezer!!!! What! One more freezer! Where?

They had an out building near the garden. They had just spent
10,000 dollars adding a green house to the out building. The
freezer, like the other one was filled with food from the garden. /w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif
And it to had flipped upside down. For some reason the smell
from this freezer was worse than the first one. It was so bad
we literally had to run relays of people into the building to
shovel out the food so we could move the freezer. You would
take a couple of deep breaths, grab a shovel, run into the room
shovel like mad, and then stagger out gasping for air. Often
you just went to the fire to breath in the smoke! /w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif

We eventually got that think moved! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

And then we went to eat lunch! Somehow! /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

Later,
Dan
 
   / Forest Fires #28  
I can relate to that. Back in the 70's I was living in an apartment building in Germany. They had the electrical service boxes in the stairwell outside of the apartments where anyone can get to them.

I had relatives coming to visit from the US and the plan was to travel for a week then stay near home for a week. In anticipation of many houesguests, I filled the refrigerator and freezer.

While we were traveling the first week, someone (probably kids) pulled the main switch for my apartment. The stench in my apartment was almost unbearable when we returned. I had both a freezer and refrigerator full of rotting food.
 
   / Forest Fires #29  
"I don't know if you can get the smell out of the appliance once
the food goes."

I occationally have tenants that get the power cut and move out. If they get their stuff out I can go in and take care of business. A whole lot of the time they boogie and take a couple of weeks to get their things and I'm kind of stuck. I clean the fridge out myself because the hired help won't do it. I pop the door and spray bleach all over everything and wait awhile then do what I got to do. After the mess is out I prop the door open and scrub it out with dishwashing soap and bleach mixed and then I power it back up. Once it's cold again you can't smell it and after a few days whatever is left to stink dries out and you don't have a problem any more. If you really want to get technical pull the bottom out of the freezer so you can clean out the gunk that forms under there in all older refrigerators and run bleach over the coils. That will also clean out the drain tube running to the drain pan underneath. I've been known to pick up reefers on the side of the road and fix 'em, it saves me $300 to $400 when some pud moves out in the middle of the night with my appliances.
 
   / Forest Fires #30  
If only everyone were as squared away as you... You have provided invaluable information for anyone who faces your situation. I can only imagine the heartbreak in leaving your home and possessions in harm's way, not knowing if they will be there when you return. But nothing we possess is worth dying for... except, of course, freedom, but that's a whole different topic. Best of luck and may God be with you.
 

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