Forklift battery

   / Forklift battery #11  
I have been an electric forklift mechanic for 26 years. Look on the data plate. Post a model and serial#. If it needs a battery the best thing you can do is trade it for a propane unit. Pulling that battery without hurting yourself is gonna be a struggle. The easiest way is to get a set of real heavy duty rollers. Chargers draw a ton of amps and the lowest voltage you will get for that battery is 208v. That battery and forklift is made to be run for an 8 hour shift and recharged. To run it any differently will shorten battery life dramatically. Used batteries aren't worth the risk and reconditioned batteries are a scam. There is a reason your buddy gave it away. Seriously, the best thing you can do is get rid of it.
 
   / Forklift battery #12  
what did you do to your buddy to make him so mad to dump this on you?:laughing:
 
   / Forklift battery #14  
Depending on how old it is, what specific type it is (counter balance or reach truck), and what make it is, it may have some value as a used forklift. Granted, it won't be much due to the battery issue, but I wouldn't look at it as a pain in the rear or a money pit just yet. Heck, we don't even know for sure how bad the battery is just yet.

If you do wind up scrapping it, try and break it down yourself. If you pull out the electric motors, heavy cables, hydraulic manifold (usually aluminum), and hydraulic pumps (also aluminum) you'll get more out of it. If it's not too old, the drive tire (or tires) can have some value for the hubs.
 
   / Forklift battery #15  
I've scapped forklift freebees also just because of this reason......heck, I have two in my shop right now that need batteries too....They don't sell unless they run....:eek:
 
   / Forklift battery #16  
Would be nice to know a make, model, and serial #. If the OP would like, here is some requests and advice.
1. Make, model, amd serial#. There will be a data plate on it somewhere, hopefully. About the size of an index card. Also, try to find out a manufacture date. I am going to take a stab here and guess it's not a reach truck but a 3 wheeler counterbalance. Easy way to tell, a reach truck has outriggers with 4"-5" wheels at the ends. The outriggers extend outwards towards the forks. A counterbalance 3 wheeler will have 2 wheels at the base of the mast usually around a foot in diameter. The reason I say 3 wheeler is that with a battery that big, reach trucks usually have a very tall collapsed height and would require either a low-boy or be laid down to transport. 3 wheelers usually don't have a tall mast. Reach trucks however, are way more popular and numerous than 3 wheelers.

2. Find out exactly what is wrong with the battery. Ask your buddy. Either the battery is old and won't hold a charge very long or it is damaged. May have a bad cell, bad cable, maybe he didn't bother to find out, maybe he did. Either way, good to find out.

Here is my rationale for dumping it. Only you can decide what you want to do but here is simply my humble opinion. You already know the pros of keeping this truck, now here are the cons.

You gotta get the thing running. Have to figure out the battery issue. Used batteries will buy you a couple years at best then you are back to where you are now. Reconditioned batteries are a scam. Repeat, a scam! Industrial batteries only have so many life cycles in them I don't care what you do to them. Steam clean them and paint, does nothing for adding life cycles. These batteries are made to expend a certain amount of amp hours over a 6 hour period. If you don't use them in that fashion, the life cycle is shortened. If your battery is old, the 6 hour cycle will be cut lower and lower until it's to the point of getting nothing done at all. Also, when you run a battery in this condition in your forklift, you will burn up electrical components. Quick electrical lesson. Power is watts, it takes so much power (watts) to do work. Watts is amps multiplied by voltage. When your battery is going bad, voltage drops. Now it takes the same amount of wattage to do work no matter the voltage, so the amps come up to compensate for the drop in voltage. When amps come up, you start burning up components. So don't run it with a bad battery. If you look on the side of the battery right below the lifting eyes, it should have the weight stamped into the frame. Right now, industrial batteries are going roughly $1.25 a pound. My guess is your battery weighs around 3,000 pounds. Do the math. That gets me to my next point.

Getting it repaired. When this thing runs, it's gonna be a blast to run and very handy. When it doesn't run, you're screwed. I am a road tech and technical trainer for a major forklift dealer. We charge $103 an hour. You pay an hour trip charge just for me to pull up to your door and grace you with my presence. Then it's an hour minimum. So you're at $206 minimum and I can't recall seeing a bill that low in forever. And don't even try an independent. Oh they will tell you they can fix anything and you might get lucky and find a guy that can. Do you feel lucky? Lol! Sorry, a little Dirty Harry humor. Wanna try fixing an electric forklift yourself? Go ahead, see if you can even find all the fuses on the truck. Guarantee they are not all in one spot or even under the same panel. Need a component? Depending on what it has for a drive system, some components are a few bucks. I changed a module the other day that was $3500! So I ask again, you feel lucky?

Addressing the 6-6v battery idea. What draws the most power for your truck is lifting, especially when the mast is staged. Remember my comment about watts, power and voltage drop? Those 6 batteries won't have a prayer of keeping up. In the short term, it will work. We use a battery cart like this for moving trucks around the shop. As a permanent solution? Not! I would like those guys out there that replace larger batteries with these smaller one to perform a voltage drop test under load, if you know what test I am describing. If you don't, you shouldn't have put the batteries in. If you do, give me your resting voltage and voltage under load. You're gonna be shocked.

I can go on longer but it's getting late. I think you get it by now. Now you know why I said to get rid of it. With my knowledge and ability, I don't think I would even keep this unit. And I do need one around my shop. I am renting space in a 125,000 square foot building and need a forklift, but I don't need another headache. Good luck.
Andy
 
   / Forklift battery #17  
Depending on how old it is, what specific type it is (counter balance or reach truck), and what make it is, it may have some value as a used forklift. Granted, it won't be much due to the battery issue, but I wouldn't look at it as a pain in the rear or a money pit just yet. Heck, we don't even know for sure how bad the battery is just yet.

If you do wind up scrapping it, try and break it down yourself. If you pull out the electric motors, heavy cables, hydraulic manifold (usually aluminum), and hydraulic pumps (also aluminum) you'll get more out of it. If it's not too old, the drive tire (or tires) can have some value for the hubs.

I'll bet the whole unit is worth close to a thousand for scrap just the way it sits. The batteries are mostly lead. Could scrap it and find a propane unit on Craigslist or Evilbay.
 
   / Forklift battery #18  
I'll bet the whole unit is worth close to a thousand for scrap just the way it sits. The batteries are mostly lead. Could scrap it and find a propane unit on Craigslist or Evilbay.

Not down here. I recently scrapped a few at work, we get about .05 cents a pound for them as they sit, without the batteries. The scrap yard considers it 'torch cut' steel. Since we're a battery dealer also, we sell the batteries separately to someone else. Figure a counterbalance truck without a battery weighs 5500-6,000 pounds, a bit less for most reach trucks. It works out for the company though, because they save on labor having to strip the unit down. Most scrap yards around here won't take them with any wheels or hydraulic components installed.

I'll be honest, I'm not as pessimistic about the original poster's situation as it seems like some of y'all have been. Worst case scenario, he can run the thing until it completely dies, then scrap it. He mentioned that the unit runs well, and just has battery issues. Depending on how old the lift truck itself is, it might be worth putting a new battery in. We have a few customers running units from the mid 80's, with proper maintenance and good operators they can last quite a while.

We really need more information before we can go much further. Brand and model of the forklift and battery. With the size of battery he described, I'd guess it's an 18-125-17 model. If it isn't too old, it might be repairable. An acid adjustment can do a lot for a battery, depending on previous maintenance (watering and charging) procedure, along with how they were using it.
 
   / Forklift battery #19  
Hopefully it's not a Raymond they won't even take them for scarp!! :D
Although a good paint job and some Crown decals and he may get a few bucks for it!! :thumbsup:
 
   / Forklift battery #20  
I have not studied these electric forklifts, but thought a time or two about finding a cheap one and using it to make a 3pt forklift for tractor.
 

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