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Front angle blade, plowing snow with B7610 (B7510,B2410, B2400, B2100, etc)

   / Front angle blade, plowing snow with B7610 (B7510,B2410, B2400, B2100, etc) #1  

jas67

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Kubota B7610 + Kubota G1800-S
I have a B7610 (which is the same basic tractor as the B2410, B7510, B2400, B2100, B1700, B7500, B7410, B7400, etc), and currently use a 5' back blade (too short, need a 6' to cover my tracks with the turfs set wide) for accumulations under 6", and resort to the Woods SB60 blower for anything deeper.

I've been considering a front blade with power angle, that way I don't have to switch implements, just leave the blower (or my fork for moving firewood) on the back, and then the front blade can be on all the time.

I have a quick attach bucket adapter (home-made, but like the B3200 quick-attach bucket). So, I'm considering trying to find an hold truck plow, and shortening it to 6' or so, and fabbing up a mount to attach it to my bucket quick attach.

The other option, is to look for a used front blade that attaches directly to the tractor (which would require removing the whole FEL assy).

My big concern with the blade on the FEL arms is that it would be too far out front, and push the front of this relatively light (1300 lb w/o FEL, about 2000# with FEL, and loaded turfs) tractor sideways when trying to use it on an angle.

The down side of the tractor-mounted (as opposed to FEL arm mounted), is that it would take much longer to switch back to the FEL (which could be handy if I need the FEL to dig out the piles left behind by the PENNDOT plow).

What experiences have anyone here had with a tractor this size and a front-mounted angle plow?

I have no problem whatsoever with the tractor sliding sideways using the rear blade. I have loaded turfs, so there is definitely more weight on the back wheels than would be on the front. I did have a little issue with lateral traction with the R4's last year, but the turfs are MUCH better.

Thanks in advanced for your help!
Jay
 
   / Front angle blade, plowing snow with B7610 (B7510,B2410, B2400, B2100, etc) #2  
I adapted a 7-1/2'truck plow to my 35hp tractor with the intent of leaving the plow and frame unmodified. Why cut it down? At a high angle, you get the best snow lateral movement, least buildup on the blade, and smoothest cut in a bumpy driveway. It sure doesn't take much power to push a foot of snow. Mine covers the entire driveway in 2 passes. Its just like cutting grass. Once you stop worrying about whether the tractor is good enough to handle an undersized mower, you'll begin wishing you had a bigger one.
 
   / Front angle blade, plowing snow with B7610 (B7510,B2410, B2400, B2100, etc) #3  
I used a 6' on my 7510 and it worked well. I did not have hydraulics so I usually left it straite but I did use it angled from time to time. I don't see you having a problem for under 6" of snow.
Rob
 
   / Front angle blade, plowing snow with B7610 (B7510,B2410, B2400, B2100, etc) #4  
I have a homemade front mounted angle plow on loader, manual (B1750). It is 66" wide and is mated to a truck plow assembly that is 24" out in front of the connection to the loader. No problems with weight or sliding unless heavy weight snow. Should not be a problem.
 
   / Front angle blade, plowing snow with B7610 (B7510,B2410, B2400, B2100, etc) #5  
I plow with 7foot blade using a frame mount on my MF1532 and get side slide when icy. Adding ice cleats chains even to one front wheel will solve the sliding, wet snow on a hill lock the diffs up. You won't have any issue with a 6 footer.
PS: I keep a box scraper on back for weight and cleaning up.
 
   / Front angle blade, plowing snow with B7610 (B7510,B2410, B2400, B2100, etc) #6  
I mounted a 6.5ft Meyers poly plow on the loader arms of my B2400. Looks to stick forward maybe 24'' more than a frame mounted plow. It does kick sideways some in deep heavy snow, but for the most part, works very well. I think front tire chains would eliminate most of it.
I also run a weight box on back with aprox. 600-700 lbs of tractor weights in it, but I think most of that weight is unnecessary.
 
   / Front angle blade, plowing snow with B7610 (B7510,B2410, B2400, B2100, etc) #7  
I have no problem whatsoever with the tractor sliding sideways using the rear blade. I have loaded turfs, so there is definitely more weight on the back wheels than would be on the front. I did have a little issue with lateral traction with the R4's last year, but the turfs are MUCH better.

Thanks in advanced for your help!
Jay

I have a larger tractor for snow duties, about 4500-5000# as it sits with loaded R4's and FEL, and the 7' rear blade will push it around like a skinny kid on the playground holding the last twinkie when it's angled. Then again, I'm moving drifts 2 - 3' tall and my tire chains have broken.
 
   / Front angle blade, plowing snow with B7610 (B7510,B2410, B2400, B2100, etc) #8  
I have a B7800 with a 6 ft. front blade attached to a quick hitch. This works very well for me. A also have a front snow blower and I swap them depending on the snow. It takes about 5 minutes to swap them out. I can leave the quick hitch on and still mount my FEL if I need to although I have to be careful as it is possible to hit the hitch with the FEL. If necessary I can remove the quick hitch in about 5 minute as well if I really need the FEL for serious work. I think this set up is very good and I have had plenty of use for it this year already. I have non-loaded R4 tires with rear chains and have never had an issue, even when blowing 18" of snow or plowing 6".
 
   / Front angle blade, plowing snow with B7610 (B7510,B2410, B2400, B2100, etc) #9  
I mounted a 6.5ft Meyers poly plow on the loader arms of my B2400. Looks to stick forward maybe 24'' more than a frame mounted plow. It does kick sideways some in deep heavy snow, but for the most part, works very well. I think front tire chains would eliminate most of it.
I also run a weight box on back with aprox. 600-700 lbs of tractor weights in it, but I think most of that weight is unnecessary.

That's why you have steering brakes...
 
   / Front angle blade, plowing snow with B7610 (B7510,B2410, B2400, B2100, etc) #10  
My 20 hp tractor weighs about 2500 lbs and sports a 6ft manually angled front blade.
No problems with real full front loads of snow and I plow full throttle with a geared in high 3rd.
I do also use differential braking.
The shorter the coupling of the blade, the better the performance.
I did discover that the push arms need to be parallel to the ground otherwise you jack up the front if slanted downwards or the plow rides over the snow if the arms slant upwards.
 
   / Front angle blade, plowing snow with B7610 (B7510,B2410, B2400, B2100, etc) #11  
Jay

I have a 7610 with a Curtis FEL 6.5' power angle plow. I also have a 60" rear blower and my R4 tires are filled and have chains (for the hill & ice).

The only time I have had a problem with the tractor going sideways is when I have too much down pressure on the plow. This will allow the front tires to float and then it will go off to the side.

As I plow I keep feathering and adjusting the plow ( 1900' gravel driveway). We just had a 20" storm last week. No problems. On my first pass, I anlge the plow to the left and drive to the road. I then Back up with the blower running and my driveway is done in 2 passes. Last year in our old house I did the same procedure on the paved driveway. The only time I had issues with the front end is when I had to much angle bite or down pressure. On the paved driveway I could plow in the float mode, but on gravel, it doesn't work well.

I just tried the ABS pipe last week, and it worked awesome until the pipe broke. I am working on getting a different kind of plastic that can take the cold without being brittle.

I wouldn't hesitate to put the plow on the FEL.
 
   / Front angle blade, plowing snow with B7610 (B7510,B2410, B2400, B2100, etc) #12  
My B7510 with loaded turfs with a craigslist western plow 6.5' cut down to 6' and hydraulic angle...Works the balls!!!
 

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   / Front angle blade, plowing snow with B7610 (B7510,B2410, B2400, B2100, etc) #13  
I just picked up a 1999 Kubota B2400 and it has the FLE. I like the approach Firefighter Kubota is using. (I guess because I am a retired fire chief and work for a major firefighting equipment supplier....lol). Anyway, I looked on google for ideas and saw a reference to eBay where an Amish owned company is making a plow that fits on the control arms with the bucket removed. Not sure if it available with the hydraulic options to angle the blade though. It appears the way it was done in the photos included by Firefighter Kubota that it does have hydraulic angle capability and using the FLE to raise the plow. The only advantage I saw to the Amish built unit was it would not have as much front end weight or overall length. I am enclosing a link to something similar as he replied that they can make it fit any Kubota. Just curious if anyone has tried this?

NEW 6 SNOW PLOW/BLADE SUBCOMPACT TRACTOR for kubota LA34 LA364 LA54 Loaders | eBay
 

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