front loader arms

[IndyIan]

Back dragging with the loader in float may take a couple passes but less chance of breaking it I guess. With the bucket bottom near vertical it still moves a decent amount of material and still bumps over the imbedded rocks.

 

[4570Man]

Back dragging with the loader in float may take a couple passes but less chance of breaking it I guess. With the bucket bottom near vertical it still moves a decent amount of material and still bumps over the imbedded rocks.

You shouldn’t backdrag with the bucket past 45 degrees. Doing it with a nearly vertical bucket is almost guaranteed to bend cylinders.

 

[IndyIan]

You shouldn’t backdrag with the bucket past 45 degrees. Doing it with a nearly vertical bucket is almost guaranteed to bend cylinders.

Even in float mode? I guess if you are going fast, I try to keep the tractor from having too much speed when using the loader as its nice to take it slow and steady with the hst.

 

[4570Man]

Even in float mode? I guess if you are going fast, I try to keep the tractor from having too much speed when using the loader as its nice to take it slow and steady with the hst.

It might help but back dragging at 90 degrees is a recipe for trouble no matter what.

 

[eddieirvine]

That looks like a quality repair. Nice job.

thanks they cost to much not to fix right

 

[oosik]

I have a heavy( 820# ) grapple on my FEL. I will occasionally backdrag with it. I put the FEL/grapple in float. Very little pressure on the FEL frame or hydraulics.

If I have HEAVY grading to do - the HD Rhino rear blade comes into use. Either forward or reversed. I smooth things out with the land plane grading scraper also. Roll over box blade if I need to move material from here to there.

 

[Cycledude]

Would be nice to see pictures taken before the nice repair job was done.
Yes I believe way to many operators are unaware of how easily these loaders can be damaged, I probably wouldn’t realize it myself if it wasn’t for reading so many reports of damage.

 

[Smokeydog]

Back dragging should be done with the heel of the bucket. Stronger geometry of the FEL and better leveling results. Skidsteer and commercial tractor buckets are usually built with a heavy edge at the back of the bucket. Ag tractor buckets might need a steel flat bar or angle welded to the back bottom of the bucket to perform this task better. By changing the tilt while back dragging can easily drag and dispense, move and smooth loose materials with professional results.

Had a L3830 with OEM bucket that absolutely sucked at back dragging. Then are apt to roll the bucket and use the front cutting edge. Bad for the tractor and job results.

 

[LD1]

Surprised it broke back dragging. Cause that would tend to put the cylinder in compression.

Now bucket dumped near vertical and pushing, I could see that ripping the cylinder off the mount if you hit something hard and fast

 

[Notforhire]

That’s the first I’ve heard of breaking the arm but bending cylinders back dragging is pretty common. Tractor loaders are pretty delicate. They’re not skid steers or dozers.

Truer words were never spoken.
Ag loaders are really for "material handling".
With that in mind, it's surprising how much abuse they really can take.