Front rear 3 pts and PTOs?

[EasyEd]

Hey All,

I am wondering - what CUTs if any have front and rear PTOs and 3 point hitches both ends? (As options)

I see for example the CK25 Kioti has front and rear PTOs standard (the pdf brochure says so) with an optional mid PTO. That seems to me a lot of PTOs for a 25hp engine. I don't recall mention of a front 3 point though.

-Ed-

An edit: As an aside do any companies have a jingle that can beat this one?

http://216.177.77.150/marketing/montana_jingle/08_MONTANA_JINGLE_LONG_VERSION_WITH_VOCALS.mp3

Just curious I don't have one but was looking.

 

[Rudevette]

I don't think you're going to find a front PTO unless you go to a Versatile Bi-directional.


-Justin

 

[WilliamBos]

I don't think you're going to find a front PTO unless you go to a Versatile Bi-directional.


-Justin

Not true. Look at MF, all options over here now, from 5400 series and up. Also, I know of a T7060NH, and a 7930JD with front 3PT & PTO.

Frankly, it is about time they are over here, been around in Europe forever.

 

[EasyEd]

Hey All,

WilliamBos Exactly right! I simply cannot understand the sheer lack of innovation in tractors sold into the American market. It's as if there is a time warp over America that dictates that a tractor has to look and operate like Grandpa's tractor from the 40s/50s/60s only put a cab on it so I'm comfortable.

I grew up on Fords 8n, golden jubilee, Farmalls M and H, Case (I forget the model) MM and a small Deere. I bought a 98 NH with about 95hp for a place I worked at 6 or 7 years ago. I know those tractors and when I get on an American market tractor today it's no different just a few more bells whistles power and comfort. Where are the advancements? Disappointing when you look at Europe and in my opinion particularly Valmet. However those tractors are bigger than I want.

I'm well aware of the Versatile as I have driven a Ford 9030 and loved the utility of it but it is bigger than I want. I did see a John Deere with apparently reverse steer and a big honeybee draper header on it swathin barley north of Oyen Alberta once - five six years ago. It was far enough out in a field I've no idea what model it was.

The point is I'm still amazed that tractors shipped into the US don't offer the front and rear pto and 3 point. What I would really like is a CUT weighing about 3500+ lbs with front and rear pto and 3 pt and about 85 to 100 hp. Small heavy duty frame with big power to run the ptos.

What tractor maker has been innovative enough to make it?

-Ed-

PS That Montana song is catchy - do any other tractor makers even have a jingle?

 

[EasyEd]

Hey All,

So I may have to backtrack a bit on my complaints about lack of front pto and 3 pt.

It seems many tractor companies will install this system as an option.

Frontlinkage en Front PTO Systems - Zuidberg Frontline Systems

If you cruise around this site on the products and photos pages you can either select make and model or a picture to see what all these systems are offered on. Pretty surprising range of tractors from what I can tell.

I've no idea what these systems cost but it sure makes sense to consider this option for a tractor purchase.

I certainly will be keeping in mind the ability to do this when I pick out a tractor. I've been thinking about front and rear disc mowers but there are lots of opportunities in terms of snowblowers, other mowers, sweepers, etc.

-Ed-

PS No jingles yet?

 

[WilliamBos]

Hey All,

So I may have to backtrack a bit on my complaints about lack of front pto and 3 pt.

It seems many tractor companies will install this system as an option.

Frontlinkage en Front PTO Systems - Zuidberg Frontline Systems

If you cruise around this site on the products and photos pages you can either select make and model or a picture to see what all these systems are offered on. Pretty surprising range of tractors from what I can tell.

I've no idea what these systems cost but it sure makes sense to consider this option for a tractor purchase.

I certainly will be keeping in mind the ability to do this when I pick out a tractor. I've been thinking about front and rear disc mowers but there are lots of opportunities in terms of snowblowers, other mowers, sweepers, etc.

-Ed-

PS No jingles yet?

That is a Dutch company. MF, JD, NH have optional front 3pt, and they are either Zuidberg or Laforge systems.

 

[EasyEd]

Hey All,

Zuidberg is Dutch and I looked at the LaForge site but didn't find anywhere a list of what tractors they have their system available for although it appears to be large tractors. Zuidberg at least has a way for you to know. This helps alot if your shopping and interested in this application and cuts a whole lot of tractors right out of consideration. Unfortunately there is still no way to know what tractors are compatible with what due to commonality of construction/parts - bummer.

-Ed-

PS Having a He__ of a time getting that jingle outta my head.

 

[Rudevette]

I didn't know front 3 pt. was so common. I like the idea. I would also like to see a CUT of maybe 35HP, 3500#, with a quick attach loader, front and rear PTO, front and rear 3 pt. That would make for a great machine. It would be more versatile than anything I found in my shopping search.


-Justin