Traction Front wheel drive not operating

[ritcheyvs]

Rancho, Here's a link where you can download the front axle chapter from a ck25 manual. I think the basic design is similar to your CK20.

http://pt709.synology.me/ck25axle.pdf

 

[Ranchofla]

Scott,

THANKS!! that looks very similar to what I have seen (of course yours has instructions, very nice).

Thanks again.

Rancho

 

[Jose G]

probably a broken axle, put the tractor in 2wd, remove the driveshaft cover to see it turning. Raise the front and while a friend hold the left wheel, try to rotate the right wheel. If the driveshaft rotate try to hold the wheel while your friend try to rotate his. the Side that doesnt turn the driveshaft is the side with the broken axle. No big deal to change.

your 4wd still working #1, but the differential always try to turn the easier wheel, which is the broken axle side. (it's turning inside the diff, but since there is not an axle to make your wheel turn, the diff just spin inside.)

hope that make sense and sorry for my poor english


Jose

 

[Ranchofla]

Jose,

I will try what you have suggested.

Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving.

Rancho

 

[Ranchofla]

Ok so I did a quick check, with the shaft cover slid back, and the system in 2 wheel drive mode, turning either front wheel while the other is held stationary does NOT turn the shaft (from transmission). I was unable to take the plug out to verify if the shaft is turning internally in the front axle on either side. So something is not connected right in the front axle. Oh and I did put it in 4 wheel drive with the front wheels off the ground and the back wheels locked and the shaft to the front end does turn when I try to go forward or reverse.

Thanks all, looks like a front end tear down is in order.

Rancho

 

[rider7767]

Ok so I did a quick check, with the shaft cover slid back, and the system in 2 wheel drive mode, turning either front wheel while the other is held stationary does NOT turn the shaft (from transmission). I was unable to take the plug out to verify if the shaft is turning internally in the front axle on either side. So something is not connected right in the front axle. Oh and I did put it in 4 wheel drive with the front wheels off the ground and the back wheels locked and the shaft to the front end does turn when I try to go forward or reverse.

Thanks all, looks like a front end tear down is in order.

Rancho

Take pictures. Everybody can learn with you.

 

[GMtb42]

+1 on pictures
A quick how-to writeup would be nice too.

 

[Jose G]

I'm still learning on the Kioti's (not an expert... im into car mechanics normally)
if both Axles are fine, while you turn your left front wheel to one direction, the right front wheel should turn the opposite direction if nobody holding.
I'm having a hard time figuring a blown diff... maybe a broken driveshaft ? (from the trans to the front diff)
I'll have a look further in my manual/tractor this weekend.
keep us informed

 

[rider7767]

Ok so I did a quick check, with the shaft cover slid back, and the system in 2 wheel drive mode, turning either front wheel while the other is held stationary does NOT turn the shaft (from transmission). I was unable to take the plug out to verify if the shaft is turning internally in the front axle on either side. So something is not connected right in the front axle. Oh and I did put it in 4 wheel drive with the front wheels off the ground and the back wheels locked and the shaft to the front end does turn when I try to go forward or reverse.

Thanks all, looks like a front end tear down is in order.

Rancho

Did you find out what was wrong? Very curious. I rely heavily on the 4x4 in the mountains.

 

[Ranchofla]

Tony,

I rely heavily on the 4x4 here in Nawth Fla as well and let me tell you the CK20 is a dog without it. No work on the tractor this weekend other projects are in front of it cause it does run and will do most of what I need it for right now. If I get my permit this week, there will be no work on the tractor next weekend either, though I will be using it and wishing the 4x4 worked.

Thanks

Rancho