Tires Frozen tire liquid weight

   / Frozen tire liquid weight #11  
Beet juice ( rimguard) will be the most expensive.

you can get by fine with ww fluid, water and antifreeze.. or cheapest as cacl.. jus tmake sure you have leak free tubes and valve stems.. and if you fo get a leak.. repalc ethe tubes, and wash the rim out... keeping them painted inside and out helps as well.

soundguy

I'm not sure if I would use Windshield Washer (WW) fluid. The blue colored stuff is typically water and Methanol (ie: methyl Alcohol). Methanol is hard on rubber unless it's formulated to handle it. I don't think that I would risk my tires with it. The green colored stuff is typically ammonia and water.

Pink RV Antifreeze (propylene Glycol) is the "friendliest" fluid. It's actually used in very small amounts cough syrup as a sweetener.
 
   / Frozen tire liquid weight #12  
I have had the same problems with liquid in my tires in the past and finally decided it was enough! I bought wheel weights for my tractor. At first I thought they were expensive, but if you figure in the ruined valve stems, rusted out wheels and the mess and expense of filling the tires with ANY of that junk, wheel weights are a bargain! I actually sold the calcium in my old tires to a dealer and I received more money than I imagined! If you can find used weights to fit or even make them out of scrap iron or concrete, its actually cheap. Its worked for me and I don't miss the mess.
 
   / Frozen tire liquid weight #13  
We have tractors with calcium chloride in the tires that are over 40 years old. With tubes, it is not as "evil" as many people make it. Haven't yet replaced a rim because of of the calcium chloride. The tires will be replaced multiple times before the rim. When tires are replaced, they will suck out the old fluid, put on new tires and tubes, then pump the calcium chloride back in. It does give the most weight/gallon if you want ballast.

I will add, most farmers today use cast iron weights rather than calcium chloride. Most ag tractors are not ballasted as heavy as in the past. Many tires give better traction with larger foot print (radials) and most large and midsized tractors now have MFWD and thus less ballasting. Farmers are also more concerned about compaction than in the past and want less weight.
 
   / Frozen tire liquid weight #14  
I'm not sure if I would use Windshield Washer (WW) fluid. The blue colored stuff is typically water and Methanol (ie: methyl Alcohol). Methanol is hard on rubber unless it's formulated to handle it. I don't think that I would risk my tires with it. The green colored stuff is typically ammonia and water.

Pink RV Antifreeze (propylene Glycol) is the "friendliest" fluid. It's actually used in very small amounts cough syrup as a sweetener.

Literally thousans of tractors run around with WW fluid in them.. havn't heard of any catastrophic breakdowns yet... really.. see for yourself.. google some tractor sites and ww fluid.. or other spellings... it -really- is common.

soundguy
 
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#15  
Well, after a couple or three upper 30 to 40 degree days, the left tire gave up its blocks of ice. Like its sister 'the right tire' there were 3 or 4 blocks of ice shaped like 30# bags of concrete that got wet. And commodious amounts of 'snow cone' ice. Amazing. Don't know how I didn't have any issues last year. Maybe whatever (suspect it was a tiny amount of anti-freeze) was in the tire isn't enough wasn't enough for this year. Oh, the ice blocks from the right tire don't look as if they have melted any. Can't be much anti-freeze in them.

Anyhow, all CaCl'ed up. Ought to be good to go, and close to as much weight. The water level had been in the ~70-80 % range (top edge of the inner rim), now 1/2 full (recommended by the tire guy as being enough with MFWD). We will see when I move the next big bales of hay or dirt. Didn't need any 3 pt weighting when moving the ~1100# bales last summer.

2 tubes, 6 bags of CaCl, 2 service fees for tube change out: ~$525. At least I know what I have now. Could have been worse -- the tires didn't burst.
 
   / Frozen tire liquid weight #16  
I think I'd still run the lever near 80%.

soundguy
 
   / Frozen tire liquid weight #17  
I think I'd still run the level near 80%.

soundguy
Top of the rim is how I thought it was supposed to be. That must be around 80%.
And I'm glad your tires are ok. I pictured sharp chunks of ice slashing at them.
 
   / Frozen tire liquid weight #19  
I bet it would. Can't say I've ever ridden on any half full ones.. must be a reason for that!

soundguy
 
   / Frozen tire liquid weight #20  
I'm running plain water at 50% level in oversize rear tires. I've never noticed any inertia effect at all.
 

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