Fuel, 101 way's to get it

[Garycw]

As full tank should last for few days working 8 hrs a day I would think.

 

[WoodChuckDad]

As full tank should last for few days working 8 hrs a day I would think.

I really would love to find that this is the case. The internet searches I did came up with 6+ gallons per hour under medium to hard usage. I will be doing medium because I lack experience and don't want to break my stuff. If I do better on fuel I will be quite pleased.

 

[Luke'sScreenName]

Anyone know if there are issues connecting the fule pump to a barrel? If the hole/threads right? Does it need to be vented?

 

[Oldpath05]

The excavator is mine. I stroked that painful check almost 3 weeks ago.im under the gun to get my land cleared in the next month. And will use it for many other things so the math made sense. The pump is rated for 50gallons per 100 strokes. It can also be set for 25 gallons per 100 to make it easier and more controllable. At first I was thinking 12 V but this was cheaper and has less to go wrong. The only issue I can foresee is the dispensing hose is only 8 feet long. I will probably replace it.
Not sure what you mean by where is the water coming from.

Sometimes for me I don't what's worse, writing a check or making big payments, at-least you now have it. In your previous post you said you have to get a water filter for the fuel tank, some bio-side and ice tea.

 

[Oldpath05]

Anyone know if there are issues connecting the fule pump to a barrel? If the hole/threads right? Does it need to be vented?

Good ??????????

 

[Oldpath05]

I really would love to find that this is the case. The internet searches I did came up with 6+ gallons per hour under medium to hard usage. I will be doing medium because I lack experience and don't want to break my stuff. If I do better on fuel I will be quite pleased.

We'll the positive side is, hand pump sounds like good exercise to me, just hope your in good shape and don't need much, say 2 gal./hrs. worth.

 

[WoodChuckDad]

Sometimes for me I don't what's worse, writing a check or making big payments, at-least you now have it. In your previous post you said you have to get a water filter for the fuel tank, some bio-side and ice tea.

Ok, now I'm following you. The issue of a water filter was seeing posts about fuel storage and talking about it getting condensation in it. But at first I don't think it will be around long enough for me to have to worry about it. hopefully in a month I will not be using it as much but that is probably just a pipe dream.
i have at least 4 acres to stump and clean up this month to so I can plant trees. Once that is done. I will be putting in a fence....Excavator not involved, but the tractor is. Then I have a road and bridge to construct, then more trees and stumps to clear to prepare the homesite so we can get the foundation poured and hopefully get the house built this year. I'll probably put the filter on there just for peace of mind but I think I'm gonna be rolling thru some diesel. And I went back out and did some more searching and it looks like I might get away with less fuel than I was expecting. I haven't found any specific listing for my excavator, but I have found some specs for a cat315 with is a slightly larger excavator and it projected 4 gallons per hour. So if I got away with that or less I'd be in better shape. And thankfully, the cost of diesel isn't near as hight right now as it was a few years ago.

 

[Garycw]

You should be getting pretty good running it after 4ac of clearing. Did you get s Thumb for the bucket? You'll need it. The nice thing about the water filters, is they'll shut the supply off if they fill with water. In not sure if if could be dumped out and put back on or not. Ideally I think a water and particulate filter online is best? That's what I'm doing on a gasoline tank that's outside. It's was also a older 300 gal tank I cleaned a bunch of gunk out. I sometimes put this in my cars too though.
I don't have any filter on the inside diesel tank.

 

[Gary Fowler]

Fill Rite 110 pumps start at around $600.00, beyond my pay grade. As for lifting the hood to hook up a 12v pump, I wonder how many times I would of done that before a light came on and started hooking the clamps on the starter, but now we'll never know, 110v pump is on it's way.

ONE reason to go with DC pump is so you can still get fuel during a power outage. For some that may not be an issue, but still something to think about.
Personally I don't like the looks of those dinky 10 gpm pumps (AC OR DC) that are referenced, they look really cheap built but at approximately $120, they are cheap. I prefer one that has a dip tube to screw into the bung on a drum or fuel storage tank like the 15 gpm Filrite.

 

[Gary Fowler]

This thread was quite timely for me. I have 2 5 gallon diesel cans and that was fine for my tractor...but since I just got a large excavator delivered to the land....which has a 65 gallon tank, and after some internet research to calculate my fuel usage, I will probably need a full tank for every 8-10 hour day I put in on it.....I will be working non stop for about 10 days pulling stumps.....and hopefully that will be enough to get me where I need to be for the spring. So....I needed a different fuel setup. After looking over many suggestions I went with a 100 gallon tank from Tractor Supply, and a hand pump. I picked them up today and put them together. I will be mounting the tank to a heavy plastic palate tomorrow. And I will be buying pallet forks for the tractor next weekend so I can take it off the truck eventually. I need to learn about the Biocide mentioned since I will eventually have some fuel sitting around for more than a day or two. I might also want to put a water filter on it. Tank was 349 and the pump was 169. so I'm in it for about 525 plus tax.....shouldn't be paying tax since it is for the farm, but that is another story.
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Man or Man, your arm is going to be getting awfully tired when pumping 60 gallons of fuel (5 gallon reserve) at a time in that excavator.
Why didn't you spring for just a few dollars more and get a 12VDC Filrite pump for that tank. It isn't too late if you haven't used that arm killer hand pump yet. Hook it to your equipment battery if you like or install a dedicated fuel tank pump battery. I assume you will keep the tank in your truck at least temporarily till you finish with the excavator, so hooking the pump to your truck battery would work also.

 

[Gary Fowler]

I put spin on fuel filters on my storage tank just to be sure of getting clean fuel into my tractors. It is minimal cost to install and it saves on replacing the fuel filters on the equipment. I didn't replace the filters on my B26 or RTV900 till over 400 hours. The filters do restrict the flow a bit so it makes pumping just a little harder but I don't notice it with my DC powered pump other than it doesn't pump 15 gpm as spec'd.

 

[fidowanttobe]

What Gary said. :thumbsup: I really like not worrying because I know that I filtered it right before it goes in the tractor. Like Forrest Gump says, "That's good. One less thing."

 

[WoodChuckDad]

You should be getting pretty good running it after 4ac of clearing. Did you get s Thumb for the bucket? You'll need it.

I had a hydraulic thumb installed on it. By the time all is said and done, I will clear almost 25 acres with it. That will take a couple years. We are having that cut now, but I only have enough trees to put in 4 acres right now. I certainly won't be able to handle it like a professional who has years of experience, but I should be able to do an acceptable amateur job with it in a year or so.

 

[WoodChuckDad]

Man or Man, your arm is going to be getting awfully tired when pumping 60 gallons of fuel (5 gallon reserve) at a time in that excavator.
Why didn't you spring for just a few dollars more and get a 12VDC Filrite pump for that tank. It isn't too late if you haven't used that arm killer hand pump yet. Hook it to your equipment battery if you like or install a dedicated fuel tank pump battery. I assume you will keep the tank in your truck at least temporarily till you finish with the excavator, so hooking the pump to your truck battery would work also.

The battery of the excavator is on the other side from the fuel filler cap. So unless I had it on the truck and hooked it to the truck I wouldn't be able to power it....also I intend to take it off and keep it near where I put the tractor. I can always upgrade in the future if I want to. Right now, I don't mind pumping...considering the workouts I do I doubt my wife or I will complain too much for having the pump 100 times to fill the tank. It just seemed that a pump was the lowest chance of something giving out on me. 110 isn't an option since it's raw land right now...and having a 12 V pump crap out on me in the morning or halfway thru a work day will cost me 2 hours minimum to replace....more probably, because they may not honor the return at TSC.....I'd end up buying pump because I would have no choice...still at least two hours of work lost. I can't afford that right now. If the weather allows me, I have 18 days I can take off work between now and when I have to get 'er done. hand pump is the best option.

 

[dickfoster]

Something like this should make connecting the pump easy. Put matching ends on both the equipment and the truck and you're always covered. They come in low and high amp flavors so you can even use them for jump starting.

 

[powerscol]

Something like this should make connecting the pump easy. Put matching ends on both the equipment and the truck and you're always covered.View attachment 459592 They come in low and high amp flavors so you can even use them for jump starting.

How about a link please

 

[WoodChuckDad]

I picked up a set of woods pallet forks yesterday. They were $749. That's $200 more than the transfer tank setup cost me. I need them and will use them many times on the farm and in the Cidery so I'm ok with it. Craigslist didn't have any deals except a couple Chinese imports for 550.

 

[Oldpath05]

I picked up a set of woods pallet forks yesterday. They were $749. That's $200 more than the transfer tank setup cost me. I need them and will use them many times on the farm and in the Cidery so I'm ok with it. Craigslist didn't have any deals except a couple Chinese imports for 550.

Do these clamp on the your tractor bucket or excavator? My guess is you bought em at Northern Tool. So was it is it $749. + 500. = $1000.00 - $599.99 tax refund and or tax write off.
When you get time, show us a picture off the fueling setup on the excavator with a pump count and a explanation of how invigorated you feel after pumping with my guess of 30 gal./8hr.

 

[Oldpath05]

How about a link please

Here's my link, (eBay), don't know how to do that fancy high lighted linking stuff, above my pay grade

I just got something like that from eBay, just no wire. I'm using it for a #9000 DC winch. It took me two hrs. to find the right size because I didn't know what size my power cable was, had to email Northern where I got 6 year's ago and ask them, they said I have 2 ga. cable. Now I have to figure out how to fasten it to the power cable, no set screws, so either crimp it, solder it or both, um not sure.

 

[fidowanttobe]

Andersonpower.com has all varieties of these from 50 to 450 amp with w/o rubber covers . I use the 50 amp without the covers and I get them on Ebay. I believe I bought a dozen and the guy combined shipped so they were reasonable. Ive also seen them at our electrical wholesaler. I crimp mine but could be soldered im sure.