coobie
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To each his own.Just stating what works for me.I don"t know if you should be worried or not time will tell.
Fuel addative
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Gary Fowler
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I agree with Coobie in that everyone has a tale about this and that that works for them. Personally I have never used any additives in my diesel and never had any issue with gelling or slime in the tank. Some folks do however have problems with both issues. I know when I worked in Northern Alberta Canada we had -40 temps much of the time and none of the equipment got special additives other than winter blend fuel. If the winter fuel blend is done right, you shouldn't have any issue with it. NOW, how do you know it is good for low temps. NO WAY for the average Joe to know so now we have special additives to prevent certain things (at least advertised properties) that get folks to buying them by urban myths and tales and the low life suppliers that sell us summer blend in the winter because they still have some in stock. I think this issue is what causes all the tales of needing additive started.
Whether or not they are required is unprovable since lots of users can say that they have used XXXXXX for 10-40 year and never had a problem. How can we prove that those users would not have had a problem if they didn't use the snake oil? We cant, which is why the products continue to be used.
I do know that one additive works for gasoline storage and that is STABIL. I know first hand what not putting it in my lawnmower gas did vs putting it in every year since.
Whether or not they are required is unprovable since lots of users can say that they have used XXXXXX for 10-40 year and never had a problem. How can we prove that those users would not have had a problem if they didn't use the snake oil? We cant, which is why the products continue to be used.
I do know that one additive works for gasoline storage and that is STABIL. I know first hand what not putting it in my lawnmower gas did vs putting it in every year since.
thatguy
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one thing to think of.. If you are from a more northern state, then go to say SC on a trip and fill up, that fuel may or may not be winterized.. And when you get back to your colder, home state you may have issues..
Also those in extremely cold area will def have winterized fuel.. But other areas that dont get that cold may or may not.
Just some thoughts if you fuel up outside of your home area..
Brian
Also those in extremely cold area will def have winterized fuel.. But other areas that dont get that cold may or may not.
Just some thoughts if you fuel up outside of your home area..
Brian
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powerscol
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All I can say if things do go wrong, their 911 anti-jell works like a charm. It will re-liquidity a tank in no time. I had run some summer biodiesel (never again) and it jelled at about 10 degrees, and I mean jelled. I first pulled the fuel filter and cleaned the bowl and filled it with 911 and added the rest to the tank and stirred what I could. In a few minutes tank fuel was fine. Then borrowed the wife's hair blower :shocked: and heated the fuel lines and injector lines. She wanted the drive way plowed. What was dumb on my part is I forgot to plug it in the night before, but the tank would have jelled anyway. . Took about 15 minutes of heating everything up and she started fine.
FreedomFamilyFarms
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Not sure where in northern Indiana you are but I purchase ag diesel at the Countrymark Station in Fort Wayne. They’ve already converted to a winter blend.
I'm over by south bend. Interestingly while my property is rural the closest gas stations are in the city. They sell diesel but I would not trust their pump jockeys to know what blend is in the tank.
The weather men and women here are all predicting a colder and snowier winter.
FreedomFamilyFarms
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Looks like you have some Countrymark locations close by. The one I use sells Ag diesel and ethanol free gasoline which I prefer for my small engines. They both store well.
edgarrian
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Live in Indiana and I don't use it and just use summer blend as a i have 60 gallon tank that i just filled. I work in north dakota where I have seen temps -50 and in alaska where temps have been -80. Some equipment gels and some doesn't. I didn't add anything to the pickups i drove and never once gelled up. I think people worry to much about that stuff as for additives
FreedomFamilyFarms
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edgarrian- How far north and what tractor? I’ve wondered if I could just skip the fuel additives and seasonal blends altogether. Would be nice to know how cold it needs to be to really worry about it. My Kubota’s weak spot is most likely the fully exposed fuel filters. Even wondered about making a kind of zip on insulated sleeve to slip around the filters and fuel line where the gelling is most likely to occur.
Also, if you keep plain kerosene around you can cut your diesel with it to prevent gelling. I’ve been running a 50:50 mix for a month now just trying to dispose of some old K-1 my brother needed to get rid of. Runs great, smells a little funny.
Also, if you keep plain kerosene around you can cut your diesel with it to prevent gelling. I’ve been running a 50:50 mix for a month now just trying to dispose of some old K-1 my brother needed to get rid of. Runs great, smells a little funny.
