Oil & Fuel Fuel caddy with pump

LBrown59 · Nov 20, 2004

1*I got a new yellow 5gal. container to make sure I keep the diesel separate from the gas. It has one of those new safety spouts that you have to push down, and no separate vent. What a useless and dangerous piece of @!#$!

2*There is no way I'm pushing that thing down onto the filter screen, it's sure to ruin it over time, not to mention awkward.

3*So I just use a real big funnel, and it splashes all over the place at first because there is no vent.
Chris
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1*Take it back and get a BLITZ can with the Self venting spout. This is the best pouring spout I've ever seen on 2 and 5 gallon cans.
I have a 5 gal yellow one for diesel and a 5 gal red one for gasoline.
I also bought a 2 gal.red one to use for kerosene

2*see #1 that will solve this problem

3*Is this a water filtering funnel? If not it ought to be.

jinman · Nov 21, 2004

Vernon, the best low-cost solution I've seen belongs to Have_Blue. Here is what he posted back in February of this year.

( I use a 55 gal blue plastic drum. I haul it to town and fill it occasionally. In 1 hole, I have a male quick connect air chuck. In the other hole, I have a 3/4" neoprene hose that reaches 1" from the bottom, and it fits on a nipple and an elbow. I have a 6' long hose on the elbow to fill the tractor.

Filling procedure is simple: I turn my air compressor regulator down to 2-3 PSI. I hook the filler hose in the tank opening, turn the tractor key on to read the fuel gage. I then chuck up the air hose and watch the gage. It fills very fast with the 3/4" hose. When the gage shows just over 3/4 full, I pop the air chuck off. The residual pressure fills it within an inch or so of the top.

Cost? About $10 for fittings, clamps, and hose. Filling tractor without spills, priceless!
)

If you can't handle a full 55 gal drum, you might be able to do the same thing with a smaller container. the 2-3 psi air it takes to transfer the fuel is very little and if you keep the feed tube up off the bottom of the barrel, you won't have to worry about picking up water that might settle there. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

LBrown59 · Nov 21, 2004

( Vernon, the best low-cost solution I've seen belongs to Have_Blue. Here is what he posted back in February of this year.

( I use a 55 gal blue plastic drum. I haul it to town and fill it occasionally. In 1 hole, I have a male quick connect air chuck. In the other hole, I have a 3/4" neoprene hose that reaches 1" from the bottom, and it fits on a nipple and an elbow. I have a 6' long hose on the elbow to fill the tractor.

Filling procedure is simple: I turn my air compressor regulator down to 2-3 PSI. I hook the filler hose in the tank opening, turn the tractor key on to read the fuel gage. I then chuck up the air hose and watch the gage. It fills very fast with the 3/4" hose. When the gage shows just over 3/4 full, I pop the air chuck off. The residual pressure fills it within an inch or so of the top.

Cost? About $10 for fittings, clamps, and hose. Filling tractor without spills, priceless!
)

If you can't handle a full 55 gal drum, you might be able to do the same thing with a smaller container. the 2-3 psi air it takes to transfer the fuel is very little and if you keep the feed tube up off the bottom of the barrel, you won't have to worry about picking up water that might settle there. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif )

Might be a good idea to put a Mr Funnel in the tractor tank opening and place the filler hose in the funnel.

keeney · Nov 21, 2004

If you are really serious about convenience, look at truck-bed fuel tanks. I have seen slim 20-gallon ones that only take 6 inches of the bed. You can also get combo tool-box/fuel tank units where the fuel goes under the tool box, or under-tool-box tanks if you already have a toolbox.

The key here is that you leave it permanently mounted in your truck. You never have to lift the fuel. Just drive to town, fill the truck tank, drive back, park truck and tractor next to each other and transfer the fuel once.

If you don't want to spring for an electric pump, they can also be fitted with a hand rotary pump.

Not sure on pricing, but I would guess well over $700 plus the pump.

I have a cheap 11-gallon fuel caddy from Northern that I use to fill my boat, but it needs to be lifted in and out of the truck for filling. Once wheeled down to the dock, the boat in the water is low enough that gravity works to transfer the 11 gallons quick enough.

The thing is flimsy enough, though, that I never store gas in it for any length of time - I only use it for transferring.

- Rick

PineRidge · Nov 21, 2004

Gotta agree with Jim, if you don't mind hauling the diesel to your home and you are looking for an low-cost solution then the innovative idea that Have_Blue came up with is the route to take. Other than your air compressor there are no moving parts.

texbaylea · Nov 21, 2004

JimI

I like that solution. I think I will look for a smaller drum, about 35 gallons. I am thinking that if I mount it on a mini pallet, I could haul it with either the pickup which is down right now or in the suburban.

I just got pallet forks from Markham Welding to use for handling. These are well made and they give good service.

Vernon

RalphVa · Nov 22, 2004

For my 1st refuel of the JD 4010, I sat the 5 gallon plastic "can" on the hood and siphoned the diesel into the tank. The siphon I have is one made for gasoline and kinda small. Took a while. TSC has one for $4.49 for kerosene that I think I'll invest in.

Ralph

JoeL4330 · Nov 23, 2004

Siphon works well for me, with 5 gal. container on hood. I found most of the effort with the container wasn't the initial lifting, but the awkward holding and pouring, so siphon is great. If hoisting 5 gal. is too hard, how about 2 1/2 gal containers ...or just fill the 5 gal. ones less full at the pump.

Lloyd_E · Nov 23, 2004

You need a Flo'&Go'. They are made in Canada soon to be distributed in USA. They are a glorified syphon. It attaches to any gas/diesel container. The container must be above the tank you want to fill. The nozzle looks like a gas station pump nozzle. You squeeze it a couples of times to get the flow going and hold it. As soon as you release handle it stops. They make a small version for chain saws, lawn mowers etc a well as a larger version for boats and tractors.

You still have to lift storage tank above receiving tank. I have two 25 litre tanks with pumps on a shelf above lawntractor...just flo'and go'

lloyd

try: www.homehardware.com or www.canadiantire.ca

Riddler · Nov 24, 2004

If you have a set of pallet forks, can't you (1) secure a larger can to a pallet, (2) secure the pallet/can to your truck bed, (3) fill the can at the gas station and then (4) move the pallet/can into a raised storage area at home? From there, all you need is a hose and simple stop valve to gravity fill the tractor anytime. With a used can, this approach would cost almost nothing.