Oil & Fuel Fuel Transfer Strategies

   / Fuel Transfer Strategies #51  
I'm late coming in on this.. but also have a question on fuel xfer. My nh holds 21g's of fuel.. and that's me with (4) 5 g tanks.. crawling up the side of the tractor like spiderman, and then eventually balncing the tank on the hood. Not at al an easy setup.

Anyone know if Harbor freight has a rotary hand pump? I'd be willing to pay up to 50$ for some sort of hand pump to help with fuel xfer... any ideas?

soundguy
 
   / Fuel Transfer Strategies #52  
There's another threading running on a similar subject.

I bought a 300 gal gravity feed tank and MFA will bring me a minimum of 150 gallons at time (or 100 if I don't mind waiting until they're in the neighborhood). It is great, but even with both a Bobcat and my 4410 (and a lot of work to do), my first purchase is likely to be a summertime supply. In retrospect, I may have been better off with a 55 gallon drum and a barrel pump, which I think you could set up for around $50.00 -- certainly less than $100.00. On the other hand -- Off road diesel went up about 20 cents a gallon about 3 days after I bought my 150 gal. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
   / Fuel Transfer Strategies #53  
Yes they do. They also have a lever pump $19 - 25 for barrels. I'm considering ordering one of lever pumps because I'm not happy with the rotary pump that I got from Cummins tools.
 
   / Fuel Transfer Strategies #54  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Anyone know if Harbor freight has a rotary hand pump? )</font>

I have one I got from them for around $20 (right before it went on sale /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif) I use it in a 55 gallon drum I use to store waste oil that I burn to heat my shed .... works just dandy.
 
   / Fuel Transfer Strategies #55  
I have this one ...
Harbor Freight barrel pump
I got it for $10 during one of their half price sales. It works fairly well. It says "self-priming" but sometimes it primes easier than others. Once it gets going, it is well worth the money.

Jeff
 
   / Fuel Transfer Strategies #56  
Just for comparison I got a quote from my oil company... $810 for my fuel oil company to install at 275 gallon tank. That includes - fill pipe, vent, level gauge, and legs. A 110 volt Fill-Rite pump is $260 from Northern Tool. My oil company has a 150 gallon minimum and are charging $2.25 for highway diesel right now (I have a diesel Jetta and a pickup truck). That would be a nice setup, but $1,070 is pretty hard to swallow.

I'd look at a hand pump but I can't figure out how I would turn the crank and be close enough to the tractor to watch the level. I'd end up spilling just as much fuel as I do now with my 5 gallon cans.
 
   / Fuel Transfer Strategies #57  
As far as filling without being able to look into the hole...

These pumps have a volume per stroke rating so count your strokes and/or don't top it off. You will want to take a rest occasionally anyway since your pumping arm will get tired.

Another trick is to listen to the gurgling.

It is worth it to not have to lift and hold those big can up in the air. No big deal if it's not topped off.
 
   / Fuel Transfer Strategies #58  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I have this one ... )</font>
That's the one I have too - for my waste oil drum.

I have this one from GPI that I got at TSC for the fuel tank.

GPI HP-90 pump

I do not recommend it - it takes about a bajillion strokes to prime - and it simply won't prime at all if I have the fuel filter element installed after the pump. Kinda useless really .......

I plan on taking it back to TSC and asking for credit the better HP-100 or an electric one.
 
   / Fuel Transfer Strategies #59  
I called a local tank supply company - their price for a 275 gallon tank, legs, vent, level gauge is $340. I'd have to pick it up and put the parts together myself. My question is - how can this be $470 less than my oil company? Aren't all 275 gallon oil tanks about the same? Was my oil company sticking it to me? Or should I be suspicious of the $340 product?

These prices are without a pump..
 
   / Fuel Transfer Strategies #60  
I have that same pump, used to use it to pump safety solvent out of a barrel into a pan to wash up parts, found it would rust up if left alone long enough. But, using it for diesel fuel or home heating oil should be no problem. Sometimes if I haven't used it for a while I've got to spin it pretty good to get it primed, but other than that it works great. I'd much rather turn a pump than back-and -forth it, easier on the shoulder IMHO.
 

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