Gas shortages

[square1]

Are you seeing our of gas gas stations in your area? I haven't been out for 3 days but keep hearing the price is jumping and in some places they are experiencing shortages. Timing is bad for the harvest Are we headed for rationing?

 

[Wagtail]

Nope... and I just filled up the ute a few hours ago.

 

[square1]

Nope... and I just filled up the ute a few hours ago.

You might not see the impact of Harvey for a millennium or three.

 

[Thomas]

Last 2 days gas gone up 13 cents here,

 

[Streetcar]

Price up 40 cent, no shortages

 

[Creamer]

Price is up here from $2.39 to $2.55 in general but I have not heard of shortages

 

[Passattdi]

Social media, and of course fake news will create one though. Get it when you need to and all will be fine. They need to have an excuse to raise prhe price, even if not a valid one.

 

[2458n]

Truck stop on 75 had fuel for 1.99 going to the farm. 2.55 coming home. Lima has their own refinery in town, and was the reason for the 1.99 price for so long.

 

[oosik]

Price for regular went from $2.69 to $2.99 in ten days. No shortages, yet.

 

[square1]

Social media, and of course fake news will create one though. Get it when you need to and all will be fine. They need to have an excuse to raise prhe price, even if not a valid one.

The shelf life of gasoline is very short comparatively making stockpiling impractical. Somewhere between 1/3 to 1/2 of all US gasoline refining capacity is offline. I don't think fake news or social media will have to stretch to far to create a shortage.

 

[oosik]

Very true - gas has a very short shelf life. And that is why the raw product is simply left in the ground or stockpiled in very large above ground storage.

Any port in a storm, ANY excuse at all - - raise those final product prices.

 

[EddieWalker]

We are 200 miles North of Houston and right next to Kilgore, where the first major oil discovery occurred. There is oil all over the place here, and we have our own refinery right in the middle of Tyler. Unless the refinery blows up, it's pretty much impossible for us to run out of gasoline.

Wednesday people started posting about a gas shortage, and by Thursday, the panic had set in. People where filling up every gas can they owned, some where filling up five gallon buckets, and others where filing up barrels and water tanks. Lines where out into the streets and the price of gas shot up .30 cents a gallon. If you drove ten miles outside of town to one of the smaller towns, there where no lines, and gas prices where still $2.09 a gallon.

Friday morning it had pretty much passed and everything was back to normal. Fortunately I survived the gas panic of Thursday, as people are posting on FB.

 

[/pine]

It's all about the futures markets and machinations...

 

[sseelhoff]

Our stations ran out (those that are open) have to be very careful where we buy. Stations were underwater, so there is a risk of contamination. Local news did a story on station that was underwater, reopened and started selling again. Destroyed a dozen car engines within hours. Cars made it a few blocks in any direction before dying on the road. City shut them down.

 

[smstonypoint]

It's all about the futures markets and machinations...

It's all about supply and demand.

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[cqaigy2]

Gas has gone up here, i figured Labor Day week-end might have something to do with it. Saw a few at $3.15

 

[/pine]

It's all about supply and demand.

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Since the US has become mostly independent the economics have changed...it was all about the supply side and who owned the supplies (futures)...short term shortages are not the same as low production shortages...

BTW if you do some digging into past high gas/oil price...it will lead you to no other than the IMF and WB that was responsible for the super high gas prices like in 2008 and others...

 

[California]

What's the WB?

 

[smstonypoint]

Since the US has become mostly independent the economics have changed...it was all about the supply side and who owned the supplies (futures)....

How have the economics changed? Are you claiming that the demand for oil is no longer inelastic? There has been a technological change resulting in a supply shift, but are you claiming something else has shifted the supply curve for oil?

.... short term shortages are not the same as low production shortages.

What does this mean? How are you defining a "shortage"? My working definition is that a shortage occurs when the quantity demanded exceeds the quantity supplied at a given price.

BTW if you do some digging into past high gas/oil price...it will lead you to no other than the IMF and WB that was responsible for the super high gas prices like in 2008 and others...

If you have a link, please post it. I am not interested in chasing vague conspiracy theories.

Steve

 

[smstonypoint]

What's the WB?

I'm guessing the World Bank.

Steve