GC Series Filters, OEM And Aftermarket Part Numbers

[ray66v]

Fram called me today.

Their verdict is, they do not currently have a filter they will officially cross for us.

If for example, the overall size of theirs is different, (longer, fatter), they will not make a determination if it's going to have sufficient clearance.

They said they probably won't be making a filter just for us.

 

[irvingj]

Rats. Thanks for checking with the horse's mouth, Ray.

 

[ray66v]

Rats. Thanks for checking with the horse's mouth, Ray.

For as much as people like to bash them, Fram held a high standard here.

I was told, the cost to produce a filter specific for this application makes it very unlikely they will do so. So, I have to wonder, since they are all making filters for the same vehicles, how any of the other manufacturers approved their filter?

 

[travelman]

Hello
I have a Massey Ferguson GC2400, 2009 year made, 411hours, with Hydro pump turned up 10% over factory settings, loader, mid mowing deck, 4' brush hog, 4' tiller, box blade.
these are the filters I have been using for decades with no issues.oil filter= stock size is Wix 51360 I use a larger version 57145, holds a little more oil and clears hood when closed, 57145 also fits my Kawasaki engines used on ztr commercial mowers.
Hydraulic Wix 57089
air filter, 3757472M91 =Wix 49691, fuel filter Wix 33262, favorite oil for Hyd. Amsoil
Battery=Interstate MT-51, prefered oil for Hyd & front diff., Amsoil, for engine Delo 400 5w-40 full syn. grease- Lucas#2 red and tacky, fuel additive =Hot shot Secret. oil =friction reducer from Hot Shot Secret
watered tires front and rear.
also own 1972 Massey 175.
why pay Napa's high profit markup on Wix! Filter1.com, $50.00 plus order free freight, no tax a few examples 57089 Hyd filter $13.67, 57145 oversize oil $4.91, 51360 oil $7.46, 33262 fuel $7.91
may not be for everyone for me why use up gas to drive into town a few clicks on computer and bingo shipped to your door! with farm and lawn equipment not hard to add up to $50.00 or more for free shipping.

 

[Jonohio]

Napa has a huge sale by me this week. I just got four oil filters for $6 each.

I can confirm that the Napa gold 1334 oil filter fits perfectly on the gc1700 as I just did the oil change today on my gc1710.


The air filter was $15.

https://www.napaonline.com/en/searc...201200+426800500+599999900&isApplication=true


Jonathon

 

[Pixguy]

Hi Pixguy,

Yes, I am going to stock up on filters when they go on sale at 50% off, sorry I did not make myself clear on that.

KC

Wasn’t the date the filters going on sale starting the 22nd? I’m not seeing the 50% sale, just the 20% after buying the bucket.

 

[MF RED in MT]

Wasn稚 the date the filters going on sale starting the 22nd? I知 not seeing the 50% sale, just the 20% after buying the bucket.

I have relooked at the card (postcard size) from my local Napa Store that says the filter sale is from today, 4/22, until 4/27, and I don't know anything about buying a bucket.

It says "NAPA Filters Farm And Fleet Sale" and "All NAPAGOLD Filters On Sale!"

This is a locally owned Napa Store, and the salesman at the counter told me that the filters for my tractor would be at least 50% off, so I thought all the Napa Stores are having this sale on the same date?

I am very sorry if these dates are only for my Napa Store, I am going tomorrow to purchase my filters and I can ask about the sale for other Napa Stores.

KC

 

[Pixguy]

No problem MF.

 

[MF RED in MT]

Update,

Purchased my MF GC2410 Napa Gold air filters, #9691 (40% off = $24.98), and my MFGC2410 Napa Gold fuel filter, #3262 (60% off = $7.13) yesterday.

The fuel filter is $8.87 at Jack's so I don't know about Napa's 60% off sale price?

The hydraulic filter for my GC2410 is still listed (Napa Gold #400361) with no price and Napa says it is still being developed to sell in the future.

I asked the owner if other Napa Store filter sales are the same dates and she told me it's up to each store to set the dates in the month of April.

F.Y.I. I purchased my MF GC2410 oil filters from Amsoil, Wix #551360, when I purchased more fluids, but Napa says they are the same as their #1360.

KC

 

[Gofast]

I bought with their 20% off sale last week. I did get free shipping.
Oil 11.59
Fuel 13.99
Air 27.99
You got better prices.

 

[bjrose]

Found Hydraulic After market filters for GC2300 series. These will not fit the 1700 series. The 1700 use Standard 3/4" 16 tpi. The 2300 is metric 20mm X 1.5 .
Very close threads but not interchangeable. when you remove filter try and span the threads with a 3/4" standard wrench. if it will not span the threads it is metric.
The first one i found was a WIX WL10285. this one wasn't available in my area so crossed with a Baldwin BT8902. it is used on many Kabota's. changed the filter yesterday
and fits perfectly. Napa has a cross as well but not same quality. Hope this finally helps OEM

 

[ray66v]

Found Hydraulic After market filters for GC2300 series. These will not fit the 1700 series. The 1700 use Standard 3/4" 16 tpi. The 2300 is metric 20mm X 1.5 .
Very close threads but not interchangeable. when you remove filter try and span the threads with a 3/4" standard wrench. if it will not span the threads it is metric.
The first one i found was a WIX WL10285. this one wasn't available in my area so crossed with a Baldwin BT8902. it is used on many Kabota's. changed the filter yesterday
and fits perfectly. Napa has a cross as well but not same quality. Hope this finally helps OEM

Thanks, I believe Wix makes the NAPA 400361 hydraulic filter, so I'm not surprised to see they have issued it under a Wix number too. Wix and NAPA were always the same part for years.

As far as crossing over to the Baldwin, I found with the engine oil filters that even if it crosses over, it still may not be the same. You can find several Fram oil filters that cross over from the Wix, and Napa engine oil filter numbers. Many of us have used them. However, when asked to verify them, Fram did some testing, and would not "officially" list any of their filters for our engines, due to differences in them.

Since we can't know for sure, it's probably best to use a filter that is "officially" verified, and listed by application.

 

[WranglerX]

The thing I like about WIX is you can go their web page and put in filter number and you get a page as to all the important specifications like "anti flow back or not", thread diameter and pitch and micron rating. burst pressures, gasket size and so forth... And yes Wix makes most NAPA filters, NAPA just adds 1 or more digits ahead of WIX numbers...

WIX Filters, Wix oil filters, WIX air filters, Wix Heavy Duty Oil filters - Home

For instance...

Part Details

Then there's this sort of lookup....BUT MF does not want you to know the hydraulic/HST filter number but there are several Kubota filter (read as 11 micron) that will fit... MF manual does say buried in one obscure sentence that hydraulic/HST filter is 10 micron rated...

 

[HarryVanderpool]

Here's what I do for filters.
Every once in a while, I stop by the dealer and buy 3 or 4 oil filters, a couple of fuel filters and an air filter.
I store them in a rubber tote so they stay dry and clean.
I have no problem with the price. Seems fair enough.
Just because a filter is "the same size" and the treads are the same is no indication that it is the correct filter.
We pay WAY too much for our tractors to be guessing.

 

[daman1]

Just because a filter is "the same size" and the treads are the same is no indication that it is the correct filter.

With a little homework a non OEM filter will work just make sure it has the same flow properties and the bypass setting is similar and also the Micron rating and you'll have no issues.

 

[richief]

Hydraulic filter Wix 57809 superced by Wix WL-10285

 

[ray66v]

I'm not certain this is breaking news. But, Baldwin has listed the B7356 oil filter as GC compatible. As well as a long list of other tractors that use this that filter.

You have to use the "lawn and garden equipment", category in the filter look up, to find the listings.

Here is another link verifying: Massey Ferguson GC2300 Oil Filter, Spin-On - 3710280M2

Baldwin also lists a PF937 fuel filter, and RS4804 air filter.

No hydraulic filter is listed.

 

[daman1]

I'm not certain this is breaking news. But, Baldwin has listed the B7356 oil filter as GC compatible. As well as a long list of other tractors that use this that filter.

You have to use the "lawn and garden equipment", category in the filter look up, to find the listings.

Here is another link verifying: Massey Ferguson GC2300 Oil Filter, Spin-On - 3710280M2

Baldwin also lists a PF937 fuel filter, and RS4804 air filter.

No hydraulic filter is listed.

The previous years GC series there was a direct engine oil filter replacement with PN 72201898
but the new 23 and 25 series that uses the filter# 3710280m3 there is not the last I heard, Massey Ferguson has a bulletin out directing not to use the early version filters I seen it at my dealer

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[WranglerX]

I'm not certain this is breaking news. But, Baldwin has listed the B7356 oil filter as GC compatible. As well as a long list of other tractors that use this that filter.

You have to use the "lawn and garden equipment", category in the filter look up, to find the listings.

Here is another link verifying: Massey Ferguson GC2300 Oil Filter, Spin-On - 3710280M2

Baldwin also lists a PF937 fuel filter, and RS4804 air filter.

No hydraulic filter is listed.

Yep... MF has been very good at keeping the hydraulic filter from being cross-referenced.... But a tiny little note in shop manual says its a 10 Micron filter...

Oddly enough the is a filter that is the same specifications (dimensionally and threads) that is a WIX filter for Kubota, only difference is the Kubota filter is 11 Micron....

 

[ray66v]

Oddly enough the is a filter that is the same specifications (dimensionally and threads) that is a WIX filter for Kubota, only difference is the Kubota filter is 11 Micron....

There is a Baldwin filter out there that people are using too.

Probably the same kind of thing.

I'm surprised aftermarket filter companies need a bigger market than we could give them, to make filters for us.

If you're set up to make filters, it's doesn't seem as though it would be a big deal to make them for us?