Loader GC2310 FEL very weak

[crazyjncsu]

This pump is the 30mm. I figured MF would have sourced a longer shaft part for ours if they made it in any longer.

 

[ray66v]

Well that sucks.

This just got a lot harder to do anything with.

My be time to trade it in on a Mahindra. :laughing: At least they are still red.

 

[Clipse3GT]

I don't see how a small CNC shop just can't make you a longer shaft for the pump. Yes, it will cost some money. Anything is possible with enough $$$... However, it is cheaper than buying or trading in a tractor. Then just have a hydraulic shop take the pump apart and put in the new longer shaft. Some larger hydraulic operations can manufacture or machine one off parts. I sometimes have custom parts made for some of my projects.

**** another idea... take apart the old pump. Take the shaft to a machinist have them extended it at the base. Then just have them turn down the welds on a lathe and mill in longer spline groves.

 

[crazyjncsu]

Btw, got everything running today. It operates 1000x better than before. Nice to not feel so impotent

 

[ray66v]

I don't see how a small CNC shop just can't make you a longer shaft for the pump. Yes, it will cost some money. Anything is possible with enough $$$... However, it is cheaper than buying or trading in a tractor. Then just have a hydraulic shop take the pump apart and put in the new longer shaft. Some larger hydraulic operations can manufacture or machine one off parts. I sometimes have custom parts made for some of my projects.

**** another idea... take apart the old pump. Take the shaft to a machinist have them extended it at the base. Then just have them turn down the welds on a lathe and mill in longer spline groves.

I could build up the end of the shaft, and extend it myself. But, I an concerned about a failure.

Once a piece of hardened steel gets inside the transmission, it's junk.

Having a shaft made, could create the same type of issues, if the wrong material is used.

More than likely, that part is heat treated after it's machined, so that gets complicated too.

Not sure what I will do at this point.

 

[ray66v]

Btw, got everything running today. It operates 1000x better than before. Nice to not feel so impotent

Congratulations, on potentially having the first non-sheared, pump failure.

Sorry about that. At least it's behind you now. :thumbsup:

 

[Clipse3GT]

I could build up the end of the shaft, and extend it myself. But, I an concerned about a failure.

Once a piece of hardened steel gets inside the transmission, it's junk.

Having a shaft made, could create the same type of issues, if the wrong material is used.

More than likely, that part is heat treated after it's machined, so that gets complicated too.

Not sure what I will do at this point.

I agree, having it welded has a higher chance of failure. But again you can take most machine steel and get it hardened and/or cryo treated for increased durability and it should be as durable as OEM or even better.

 

[ray66v]

I agree, having it welded has a higher chance of failure. But again you can take most machine steel and get it hardened and/or cryo treated for increased durability and it should be as durable as OEM or even better.

Sure, anything can be done with enough money. All that gets complicated.

I could probably have Shimadzu custom make me a pump with a longer shaft too.

The only place you can get stuff hardened around here, is so busy all the time, they won't even talk to you if you come in there with one piece.

Probably the only good option, is to find a pump that has a longer shaft.

 

[Clipse3GT]

Sure, anything can be done with enough money. All that gets complicated.

I could probably have Shimadzu custom make me a pump with a longer shaft too.

The only place you can get stuff hardened around here, is so busy all the time, they won't even talk to you if you come in there with one piece.

Probably the only good option, is to find a pump that has a longer shaft.

Well of course, but find a pump with a longer shaft seems to be a bit of unicorn... hard to get.

Any machinist can make a basic pump shaft, plenty of online machinists / smaller business that do heat treating on various parts for smaller projects if you can't find that unicorn of a pump.

 

[Daski]

I've always felt the entire tractor was a bit slow/weak, but today the front loader was a huge disappointment. I was trying to do some grading, and the loader just wasn't able to lift much of anything. I couldn't even empty a bucket full of dirt from pushing, which made the whole exercise very frustrating.

It seems to lift relatively fast when the bucket is empty, which would seem to indicate there is not a restriction in the lines (???).

It drives pretty good and pushes dirt pretty hard, so it seems the drive is unaffected (???).

The backhoe has always seemed slow, but I have watched other videos and it doesn't seem out of the ordinary. The hoe does seem a little weak, but with my disappointment in being slow, that didn't seem out of the ordinary either.

The loader doesn't have a fast weep when the bucket is empty or full, which would seem to indicate the cylinder seals are fine (???).

I'm aware of the issue with the short spline shaft, but that seems to affect the drive also, and the drive seems unaffected in this case.

This shows the issue:

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This shows other functions that seem to be unaffected:

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Can you guys suggest anything to look at? Thanks!

Hello sir, running into similar issues seems like hydraulic oil over heating after running for a bit.. any advice, updates on your experience? Thank you so much!