GC2310 Hydraulics testing. Plug the transmission fittings?

[ray66v]

Considering the fact that parts prices are very high, and the amount of time it will take to make this a reliable machine, I don't think this is going to be worth it.

You are probably much better off finding a nice used one. Which will also retain much more of the money you are investing, in residual value.

 

[WranglerX]

IF this was originally equipped with BH and you disconnected (removed ) it, you probably don't have a through circuit for hydraulics to TPH, you will need a loop hose to get through flow through the "power beyond" circuit for BH as it is ahead of THP in hydraulic circuit.... In these SCUTS the TPH is last device in hydraulic circuit...

 

[johng650]

"Is your serial number below or above JNA25201. It can make a difference."

Here's what's left of the manufacturer label. I'm not sure how to interpret if it's above or below thw magic number.

"I believe the addition of the FEL valve control changers the routing of the hydraulic fluid to the 3pt hitch. When you capped off the lines, you may have stopped flow to it. The 2310 also has extra hoses that I am no familiar with."

Ok. I was assuming the 3 pt had its own piping feom the control valvw mounted above the pump. But my service manual hasnt arrived yet and its hard to tell from online parts manuals.

"Check the orientation of the driveshaft U joints before final installation. It can affect drive-line vibration."

Excellent point! I thought I had aligned the shaft back to its original location but it might be off. I'm assuming I'm going to need cut the shaft again to free the spline and to install the fan. Hopefully the service manual will cover alignment.

"Because of the amount of rust, you might want to slit open (do not remove) the steering tie rod boots to inspect. Even with holes in the boot, regular spraying with fluid film will keep them lubricated."

the steering cylinder is in such bad shape it needs to be repaired or replaced. I'm eating towards getting a cylinder from kubota and fabricating brackets to fit the Massey. The kubota cylinder is $277 and available.

"Parking brake sounds like it is stuck on
In the video."

From the driver seat it sounded like it was coming from the front, but considering how many of the control arms are frozen it wouldn't surprise me if the brakes were applied.

"Clean the rusted cylinders by hand as well as you can, waste of money to replace them. I assume you are not worried if it leaks a little bit. "

I'll give it a try for sure. Thanks for the video link. It cost about half a quart of hydraulic fluid to do the little jaunt in the video. All of it out of the steering cylinder.

Thank you again for your comments!

 

[DMW]

Your serial number is pre JNA25201. Built in 2004, they changed the serial number system in 2005/6.
Be aware, due to early build date is the hydraulic pump. It was assembled without full engagement of the spur gear with the hydrostat. Some ended up with damaged gears in the hydro. Mine is also an N-TXXXX, no issues so far at 900 hours. It's one of those things where you are better letting it fail rather than be proactive, as it may never be an issue.
Do not replace cylinders, rebuild for 1/3 the price. Saves aggravation of fitting different parts, and gives you valuable skills that will be needed for the FEL and backhoe cylinders, or the costs will start to rise quickly.
Are you aware of Agco Parts Book for looking up parts and online schematics?
The cleaning video was just the first that came up on a search, didn't see anything terribly wrong about it, but am sure there are better ones.

 

[GeneV]

Heck yeh man, that's one cool project! Gentlemen, we can rebuild him, we have the technology.

 

[Bentrim]

The loader hoe hydraulics can be bypassed by "short circuiting" the lines that run under the platform to the right side just under the platform. There was a U shaped tube that shipped with the tractor, loader when they were new.

https://parts.agcocorp.com/us/en

Main Piping system

https://parts.agcocorp.com/us/en/apbsearch?q=masseyferguson/651743/l&name=GC2300+%2F+GC2310+TRACTOR+PRIOR+S%2FN+JNA25201

Note item 56

Also note manuals are available at:AGCOPubs.com - Technical Manual Store for all AGCOCORP Brands

 

[johng650]

Thanks. I did get a hose to replace that loop fitting. The one that came with my tractor was totally rusted.

I was able to get the 3pt to lift, but it doesn't go down with the reverse lever applied. Bad spring or no hydraulic pressure to push it down?

I bought an operator's manual, a tractor service manual and an engine service manual. Hopefully those will answer some of my questions.

 

[WranglerX]

Thanks. I did get a hose to replace that loop fitting. The one that came with my tractor was totally rusted.

I was able to get the 3pt to lift, but it doesn't go down with the reverse lever applied. Bad spring or no hydraulic pressure to push it down?

I bought an operator's manual, a tractor service manual and an engine service manual. Hopefully those will answer some of my questions.

3PG does nor have any down hydraulic action, its pure gravity, only thing lever does is release hydraulic fluid from ram...if you want speed back off rate control knob or add weight...

I actually have to use stay chains when my ballast weight is on, if I don't use chains the "natural" leakage of ram lets 3PH drop...