************Botabill said:
Why did they make the big grin GREEN?
Causes cancer, huh? Alrighty then. Quote from the MSDS sheet: "current 2,4-d lifetime feeding studies in rats and mice did not show carcinogenic effects and a recent World Health Organization (WHO) review of 2,4-D toxicology has concluded that 2,4-D is not a carcinogen." Do you have some information to the contrary? Roundup, et al is glycophosphate. It is absorbed through the leaves of living plants and blocks some enzyme or another from doing it's little enzyme thing and the plant dies. It does nothing if sprayed on roots, doesn't hurt trees if sprayed on the trunk. I've done the grass to seedbed thing a few times a few different ways. Simply tilling it works, but works very slowly. The first tilling cuts the grass into chunks which then float around in/on the tilled dirt. It takes a few weeks/months for all of the pieces to break up and die. Putting roundup on the grass and letting it die for a week or two, then close cropping with a lawn mower, then tilling was much easier. Letting it sit with the roundup on (note-if you roundup, let it sit till you see the plant die; if you spray then cut the plant's green off, it never has a chance to be absorbed into the roots) till the whole shebang turned brown made sure the roots were dead, and the tiller broke them up much more easily, as well as not wrapping them around the tines and shaft nearly as much.Botabill said:
