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[keegs]

Clearly a number of people worship at the alter of government and changing their minds with facts will not disabuse them of their belief that government is not only the best solution, it's the only solution. Why anyone would believe getting government involved would reduce costs or simplify anything is beyond my ability to comprehend.

Mike,

Your position is understandable given your disregard for what governments around the world have done to achieve significant cost savings.

The fact remains however that relative to other systems in the deveoped world, ours costs double, we don't insure everone and many are uninsurable.

 

[FallbrookFarmer]

You know, I was discussing this same election with my fellow Republican buddies the night before the election and the consensus was that the Democratic candidate was so bad that anything less then a landslide wouldn't mean much.

Just got back from moving some dirt around, Glad to see the thread hasn't died.
I was thinking about the Mass. election and it's implication
Question: Isn't MassCare or whatever it's called probably the closest thing to what is being proposed? I leave it to you to draw your own conclusions about the election.
How about this for an idea? Every state ,Like Mass. did, institute their own form of "public option" or some variation thereon. Then instead of throwing all are eggs in one basket, we can figure out what works and what doesn't, and it would be totally constitutional. Your Thoughts?

 

[IH3444]

You know, I was discussing this same election with my fellow Republican buddies the night before the election and the consensus was that the Democratic candidate was so bad that anything less then a landslide wouldn't mean much.

Oh, that's beautiful! What a spin! You should write comedy. I can't stop laughing. This is great stuff. I love it. More, more, more, please.

I spoke with a buddy up there also. He told me his neighbors, were extremely left leaning Democrats who voted for Scott. Their explaination was they had no idea what was in the health care bill, and that's what was causing them to vote republican.

I agree, landslide, Nov. 2, 2010

 

[FallbrookFarmer]

Mike,

Your position is understandable given your disregard for what governments around the world have done to achieve significant cost savings.

The fact remains however that relative to other systems in the deveoped world, ours costs double, we don't insure everone and many are uninsurable.

Keegs
I think that you have might have found the fly in the ointment, Perhaps some governments have achieved "significant cost savings". But have they improved the quality or quantity of CARE?
If you or one of your family members were going into the hospital for a life saving procedure, would you be concerned about "significant cost savings"?

 

[turbo36]

Oh, that's beautiful! What a spin! You should write comedy. I can't stop laughing. This is great stuff. I love it. More, more, more, please.

See that's the trouble today, if it ain't on Fox then it can't be republican can it?? I miss the days when a republican could entertain an independent thought and make up his own mind.

 

[IH3444]

The spin stops here brother....I'm still laughing. Keep'em comming!

I watch'em all, but fox was just polled as the most trusted station. Google it.

You can fool some of the people some of the time, most of the people some of the time, all of the people for a brief time, but not all of the people all of the time. Which one are we at now?

Huffington post:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/20/******-finds-out-scott-br_n_429843.html

 

[Loren49]

A problem with our current system: I believe most would agree that auto insurance works because everyone needs liability coverage. Obviously people can't wait until after an accident to get coverage. The real challenge with forcing insurance companies to accept all people (no exception for prior condition) is that you could delay purchasing coverage until a problem occurs. Therefore people must be required to have coverage for this to work which really upsets many. (Especially if you're young and healthy) This is part of the reason the proposed bill is 2000 pages long.

There are many examples of government being relatively efficient - Medicare uses considerably less % of resources for administration than private companies.

I also appreciate the civil discussion of these sometimes volatile issues.

Loren

 

[FallbrookFarmer]

As this thread has degenerated to NAH-Nah-Nah!
Will the last one out please turn off the lights

 

[Loren49]

I couldn't resist - here's some good reading before you turn off the light.

CAUTION -only open if you want to look at things from a different perspective.
Garrison Keillor - Salon.com

Loren

 

[MikePA]

Mike,

Your position is understandable given your disregard for what governments around the world have done to achieve significant cost savings.

The fact remains however that relative to other systems in the deveoped world, ours costs double, we don't insure everone and many are uninsurable.

1. 'Reduce costs' is a euphemism for reduced care
2. I disregard 'what governments around the world have done' because I don't think running health care is a job of government. Also, see Item 1.
3. You mistake not being insured with not getting health care.