Global Warming News

[keegs]

I took a quick look - until my head began to hurt - at the BCAP docs. It will be interesting to see how that plays out. I haven't heard much about the cellulose to fuel research programs for several months either.

Dave.

Dave,

I think these biofuels standards were just recently announced.

EPA Finalizes Regulations for the National Renewable Fuel Standard Program for 2010 & Beyond | Transportation & Air Quality | US EPA

 

[EddieWalker]

For those who still think that there is valid science to support Man Made Global Warming, here's another tidbit of information that proves there is no science to support it.

From Climate scientists withdraw journal claims of rising sea levels | Environment | guardian.co.uk

" Scientists have been forced to withdraw a study on projected sea level rise due to global warming after finding mistakes that undermined the findings.

The study, published in 2009 in Nature Geoscience, one of the top journals in its field, confirmed the conclusions of the 2007 report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). It used data over the last 22,000 years to predict that sea level would rise by between 7cm and 82cm by the end of the century."

Apparantly mistakes happen in science and it's just part of the process. Of course, the conclusios reached by these mistakes are what fuels the Global Warming Hoax. Make a mistake, fabricate research, destroy results that don't agree with the agreed upon "science" and raise a bunch of money.

The only thing that I'm left wondering is who still believes any of this so called science?

Eddie

 

[Loren49]

I understand that a large majority of scientists in the world feel that humans' burning of fossil fuels is contributing to climate change. I feel that the clear and significant increase in CO2 in the atmosphere over the past 50 years is partly due to us and has a consequence. The deniers are pointing out the same errors that were made in some reports which resulted in conclusions which were not yet justified.

Here is an article from the same source
Get ready for seven-foot sea level rise as climate change melts ice sheets | Environment | guardian.co.uk

Quote
"Most climate scientists believe melting of the Greenland Ice Sheet will be one of the main drivers of sea level rise during this century.
The message for the world's leaders and decision makers is that sea level rise is real and is only going to get worse. Indeed, we make the case in our recent book, The Rising Sea, that governments and coastal managers should assume the inevitability of a seven-foot rise in sea level. This number is not a prediction. But we believe that seven feet is the most prudent, conservative long-term planning guideline for coastal cities and communities, especially for the siting of major infrastructure; a number of academic studies examining recent ice sheet dynamics have suggested that an increase of seven feet or more is not only possible, but likely. Certainly, no one should be expecting less than a three-foot rise in sea level this century."

Oh if it were only a black and white issue!

I'm still waiting for any scientific paper by the skeptics (or oil, coal company backers) so that their science can be checked.

Loren

 

[LMTC]

I understand that a large majority of scientists in the world feel that humans' burning of fossil fuels is contributing to climate change. I feel that the clear and significant increase in CO2 in the atmosphere over the past 50 years is partly due to us and has a consequence. The deniers are pointing out the same errors that were made in some reports which resulted in conclusions which were not yet justified.

Here is an article from the same source
Get ready for seven-foot sea level rise as climate change melts ice sheets | Environment | guardian.co.uk

Quote
"Most climate scientists believe melting of the Greenland Ice Sheet will be one of the main drivers of sea level rise during this century.
The message for the world's leaders and decision makers is that sea level rise is real and is only going to get worse. Indeed, we make the case in our recent book, The Rising Sea, that governments and coastal managers should assume the inevitability of a seven-foot rise in sea level. This number is not a prediction. But we believe that seven feet is the most prudent, conservative long-term planning guideline for coastal cities and communities, especially for the siting of major infrastructure; a number of academic studies examining recent ice sheet dynamics have suggested that an increase of seven feet or more is not only possible, but likely. Certainly, no one should be expecting less than a three-foot rise in sea level this century."

Oh if it were only a black and white issue!

I'm still waiting for any scientific paper by the skeptics (or oil, coal company backers) so that their science can be checked.

Loren

Why the persistent need to use generalities? If the documentation/data is there, use it. How many scientists are there in the world? Really---how many are there? As an aside, what is a scientist...does someone with a PhD in industrial design count? Anyway...what is the count for the list of scientists who "feel that humans' burning of fossil fuels is contributing to climate change.", and is it indeed a "large majority"? Where can I find this list? And since when does what scientists FEEL count for anything? My guess is that you can't come up with substantiation (i.e., at least two independent sources in agreement) for A. the number of scientists in the world, B. the list of scientists (thus yielding a number) who, as you say, "feel that humans' burning of fossil fuels is contributing to climate change." If you can, then use those figures, document them, and quit tossing out these generalities. Have at me if you will, because I won't post in this thread again. Your posts continue to wave these undefinable generalizations around, and as such, they have no meaning for me (hey, maybe they do for others.....I understand that is possible....but for me it's just propaganda if there's no documentation provided).

 

[Loren49]

If you care to do some research and read it you will find what you are asking me to do for you. I'm confident that if you saw the exact number of scientists and the percent who felt that the science shows that we are part of the problem, that you would still find a reason to deny it. If you are unable to comprehend the meaning of my statement about scientists in my last post, then I understand your frustration with my posts. (the exact number of scientists seem irrelevant to me),
This issue does not lend itself to a controlled scientific experiment as we don't have two earths to work with, therefore any conclusion can be questioned. The deniers (again to remind you that years of funding has come from big energy) are working hard to invalidate the science so we can continue to waste and pollute, while some make significant profits.

Loren

 

[Loren49]

Just to help with a little research, here is a quote from a year ago:

Surveyed scientists agree global warming is real - CNN.com


(CNN) -- Human-induced global warming is real, according to a recent U.S. survey based on the opinions of 3,146 scientists. However there remains divisions between climatologists and scientists from other areas of earth sciences as to the extent of human responsibility.


A survey of more than 3,000 scientists found that the vast majority believe humans cause global warming.

Against a backdrop of harsh winter weather across much of North America and Europe, the concept of rising global temperatures might seem incongruous.

However the results of the investigation conducted at the end of 2008 reveal that vast majority of the Earth scientists surveyed agree that in the past 200-plus years, mean global temperatures have been rising and that human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures.


The study released today was conducted by academics from the University of Illinois, who used an online questionnaire of nine questions. The scientists approached were listed in the 2007 edition of the American Geological Institute's Directory of Geoscience Departments.

Two questions were key: Have mean global temperatures risen compared to pre-1800s levels, and has human activity been a significant factor in changing mean global temperatures?

About 90 percent of the scientists agreed with the first question and 82 percent the second.

The strongest consensus on the causes of global warming came from climatologists who are active in climate research, with 97 percent agreeing humans play a role.

Loren

 

[EddieWalker]

What I find most interesting is that the evidence of global warming that you are using is now been proven to be false, fabricated and unverifiable. Phil Jones, who is the biggest name in Global Warming has just admitted that there has been no global warming in the past 15 years. He said he's lost all his paperwork and is no longer the head at East Anglia. It's gotten so bad that congress is now considering calling Al Gore back to testify about his role in the Global Warming Hoax.

This has turned and it's now becoming pretty obvious that allot of so called scientist have been lying for quite awhile. I can't begin to guess what this has done to the credibility of science, and from what I've read, there are allot of scientist out there who feel it's quite severe. The entire science community will either have to clean up this mess, or risk ridicule and disbelief for decades to come.

By siting evidence that has now been admitted to being false, you just support the argument that it's all a scam. Almost every day, we learn about more lies that were made up and passed on as facts. The only thing we know for sure is that they don't have a clue and it was all politics. There is no Global Warming Science. None of it can be proven, and none of it has gone through an aproved pier review process.

This IS the biggest hoax of all time.

Eddie

 

[IH3444]

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/climat...al-investigation-pajamas-mediapjtv-exclusive/

 

[FallbrookFarmer]

Just to help with a little research, here is a quote from a year ago:

Surveyed scientists agree global warming is real - CNN.com


(CNN) -- Human-induced global warming is real, according to a recent U.S. survey based on the opinions of 3,146 scientists. However there remains divisions between climatologists and scientists from other areas of earth sciences as to the extent of human responsibility.


A survey of more than 3,000 scientists found that the vast majority believe humans cause global warming.

Against a backdrop of harsh winter weather across much of North America and Europe, the concept of rising global temperatures might seem incongruous.

However the results of the investigation conducted at the end of 2008 reveal that vast majority of the Earth scientists surveyed agree that in the past 200-plus years, mean global temperatures have been rising and that human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures.


The study released today was conducted by academics from the University of Illinois, who used an online questionnaire of nine questions. The scientists approached were listed in the 2007 edition of the American Geological Institute's Directory of Geoscience Departments.

Two questions were key: Have mean global temperatures risen compared to pre-1800s levels, and has human activity been a significant factor in changing mean global temperatures?

About 90 percent of the scientists agreed with the first question and 82 percent the second.

The strongest consensus on the causes of global warming came from climatologists who are active in climate research, with 97 percent agreeing humans play a role.

Loren

Wow
I go on vacation and you guys still haven,t settled the question yet.
Sitting in an internet cafe in Porto Portugal right now and watching the news reports of the destruction in Malaga(Does this mean that there IS global climate change?) Nah don,t think so. Just checked the weather in London, where I,ll be next week and quote "The coldest winter in 30 years"
Anyway everybody keep talking, I,ll have a port for you, and see you when I return

 

[Ken45101]

I think it's silly to call Gore to testify about his movie. It's Hollywood fiction, folks! (Does anyone really think Hollywood produces accurate documentaries?)

Yes, a lot of people believed Gore's movie, but then people have even believed that the earth was being invaded when Orlson Well's "War of the Worlds" was aired