Global Warming?

[tcreeley]

I remember reading years ago that due to the large amount of fish netted, the larger ones were being removed from the gene pool while the smaller ones became the majority of the gene pool. The small ones would manage to slip through the net openings while the larger ones couldn't. Because of this, the offspring were also shrinking in size.

I also recall that it was claimed that due to over fishing the world's fish stocks would be in danger of collapsing around 2050.


Sounds like the people doing this study (Oxygen-starved fish......) took old studies and simply inserted their own reason, AGW, for the causes.

If there were no GW, the fish would still shrink in size and would still be depleted unless remedial actions were take.

Maine has a lobster fishery. But its ground fisheries collapsed 20-25 years ago.
Here is a good link with overfishing info.
http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov/sfa/statusoffisheries/2012/second/MapOverfishedStocksCY_Q2_2012.pdf

 

[tcreeley]

How many deaths would another Little Ice Age cause? How about a full on glacial event?

So do you live in the past, or today? We deal with the problems we face, and we solve them.

 

[Mace Canute]

Well...this article is going to cause some debate no doubt!

Global warming stopped 16 years ago, reveals Met Office report quietly released... and here is the chart to prove it | Mail Online

 

[2LaneCruzer]

Well...this article is going to cause some debate no doubt!

Global warming stopped 16 years ago, reveals Met Office report quietly released... and here is the chart to prove it | Mail Online

I think this illustrates just what some of us have been saying in this thread, and although its tone is anti, it doesn't discount the possibility that AGW is lurking out there somewhere.

 

[IslandTractor]

Well...this article is going to cause some debate no doubt!

Global warming stopped 16 years ago, reveals Met Office report quietly released... and here is the chart to prove it | Mail Online

Last paragraph of that article: "So let’s be clear. Yes: global warming is real, and some of it at least has been caused by the CO2 emitted by fossil fuels. But the evidence is beginning to suggest that it may be happening much slower than the catastrophists have claimed – a conclusion with enormous policy implications."

So they conclude that AGW is real but perhaps not as rapid as earlier forecasts. That is a pretty good example of unfettered science collecting data and revising theory/model/predictions in a typically iterative process.

 

[BurgerSteak]

There is something similar in golf. They call it "mulligan". :laughing:

 

[IslandTractor]

There is something similar in golf. They call it "mulligan". :laughing:

Golf is not a bad analogy for how science functions. Mulligans are not so much part of the process but second, third, fourth shots towards the pin with each attempt getting closer to the hole until the ball finally drops. Incremental progress. Forward movement until you reach the hole (sorry Houston but it appears golf is also a commie conspiracy).

 

[EE_Bota]

"Maybe the real issue is that republicans are just stingy and don't give a da** about anyone else but themself. So what if the mile wide swath goes through town....sucks to be them doesn't it."

Isn't that really what's at the heart of the whole concept?

The underlying basis, is political viewpoint... and a desire to do away with the others and their viewpoint... because they aren't as human as you. Dehumanize the other viewpoints and those who hold them... because what you think is right... because you think it.

Not Science.

Non-sense.

Oops...I hate to do this to you, but based on a pattern in this thread, you are due, so here goes:

It's called science. Look it up.
Do you know anything about the scientific method?
Are you a member of the flat earth society?
So, what you're saying is that you hate the world, and all of the people, and especially babies and puppies.

I'll stop right there, but I think I have clued you in with my short expose that I am a very clever scientist for the purposes of this thread, and you better watch your step or I'll be theorizing about you again real soon.

 

[brin]

Leftist, whacko nut cases cannot stand the idea they are ever wrong...I have never heard a commie pinko admit to being wrong or mistaken.

 

[EE_Bota]

Maybe the real issue is that republicans are just stingy and don't give a da** about anyone else but themself. So what if the mile wide swath goes through town....sucks to be them doesn't it.
Another burger for the grill and hope the sun keeps shining.

The book "Who Really Cares" debunks your claims of stinginess, and a thread in Friendly Politics showed who really has the wealth in a very innovative way. You seem to be suffering from a learning disability brought on by propaganda overdose.

 

[/pine]

Global warming stopped 16 years ago

Met Office report quietly released... and here is the chart to prove it

The figures reveal that from the beginning of 1997 until August 2012 there was no discernible rise in aggregate global temperatures
This means that the 叢ause in global warming has now lasted for about the same time as the previous period when temperatures rose, 1980 to 1996

Global warming stopped 16 years ago, reveals Met Office report quietly released... and here is the chart to prove it | Mail Online

 

[RobertBrown]

Leftist, whacko nut cases cannot stand the idea they are ever wrong...I have never heard a commie pinko admit to being wrong or mistaken.

What does this have to do with the climate, changing or not?

Everything changes.....

Mitt Romney, Climate Change Flip-Flopper - YouTube

 

[brin]

What does this have to do with the climate, changing or not?

Everything changes.....

Mitt Romney, Climate Change Flip-Flopper - YouTube

Just like the link below stipulates...Global warming stopped 16 yrs. ago....despite this article and many like it along with the revelation that Supposed scientists lied and published false findings...I have yet to hear any commie / pikno lefty admit they were and are wrong...not even a little bit...Hope that clears it up for you.


Global warming stopped 16 years ago, reveals Met Office report quietly released... and here is the chart to prove it | Mail Online

 

[k0ua]

Island.. what do you think about this?

Global warming stopped 16 years ago, reveals Met Office report quietly released... and here is the chart to prove it | Mail Online

 

[EE_Bota]

Well...this article is going to cause some debate no doubt!

Global warming stopped 16 years ago, reveals Met Office report quietly released... and here is the chart to prove it | Mail Online

That article has a picture of big smokestack looking things, and claims:
"Damage: Global warming has been caused in part by the CO2 emitted by fossil fuels. This image shows smoke billowing out of a power station"

It was not smoke billowing, but water vapor from cooling towers, worse than CO2 for global warming, but presumably it came from normal water, not fossil water.

 

[madmax12]

Oops...I hate to do this to you, but based on a pattern in this thread, you are due, so here goes:

It's called science. Look it up.
Do you know anything about the scientific method?
Are you a member of the flat earth society?
So, what you're saying is that you hate the world, and all of the people, and especially babies and puppies.

I'll stop right there, but I think I have clued you in with my short expose that I am a very clever scientist for the purposes of this thread, and you better watch your step or I'll be theorizing about you again real soon.

Can you explain what your point is? I'm not seeing it.

 

[EE_Bota]

What does this have to do with the climate, changing or not?

Everything changes.....

Mitt Romney, Climate Change Flip-Flopper - YouTube

If he changed his mind based on new data, that is pretty scientific for a non-scientist.